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::Do these indications help any further? --[[User:Chris Howard|Chris Howard]] ([[User talk:Chris Howard|talk]]) 21:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC) |
::Do these indications help any further? --[[User:Chris Howard|Chris Howard]] ([[User talk:Chris Howard|talk]]) 21:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Unfortunately, all those sources lack MEDLINE indexing. According to the MED project, all those reviews cannot be used since this is a medical topic. Perhaps, the above editor and the MED project will make an exception. I'm ok with those reviews being used, however, I focus on virology/science articles. --[[User:Guest2625|Guest2625]] ([[User talk:Guest2625|talk]]) 06:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC) |
:::Unfortunately, all those sources lack MEDLINE indexing. According to the MED project, all those reviews cannot be used since this is a medical topic. Perhaps, the above editor and the MED project will make an exception. I'm ok with those reviews being used, however, I focus on virology/science articles. --[[User:Guest2625|Guest2625]] ([[User talk:Guest2625|talk]]) 06:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC) |
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== Censorship based on [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]] == |
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As has been widely reported in recent days, the hypothesis that Covid-19 ''might'' have escaped from a laboratory has been given increased credibility. We should not claim it to be a fact, but nor should we censor it when reliable sources reported it. Unfortunately, some users are now doing the latter - repeatedly deleting any reference to the hypothesis without any valid explanation beyond [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]]. One user even deleted it with the edit summary "crappy sourcing", which looks rather silly when the source is ''Science'', one of the world's most respected scientific journals. [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] ([[User talk:Jeppiz|talk]]) 09:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) |
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Lead section: death
The lead section of the article summarizes statistics on various levels of symptoms but gives no statistics on death rates. I think it would be advisable to include them. --184.147.181.129 (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Pandemic on March 11, 2020
Odd that there is no reference in the article to the fact that WHO declared an official pandemic on March 11, 2020.
--100.4.145.81 (talk) 12:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- This is covered on the page COVID-19 pandemic, linked from here, that's about the pandemic specifically. This page generally focuses on the disease itself. Bakkster Man (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
fake "review" article?
The article has over 400 citations, similar to a review article. I.e. it states "A person who is infected can transmit the virus to others up to two days before they themselves show symptoms, and even if symptoms never appear.[57]" But, I could not find anything in the linked document that supports the statement! Has anybody actually tried to verify the citations and therefore the respective statements? -Unsigned comment by 94.222.93.65
- Citations for the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (an official EU organization) source you refer to are given here, as linked from the cited page. Bakkster Man (talk) 19:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Symptoms inconsistency
Under "Signs and Symptoms" in the second paragraph it says
"Most people (81%) develop mild to moderate symptoms (up to mild pneumonia) ...[46] At least a third of the people who are infected with the virus do not develop noticeable symptoms at any point in time"
Am I misunderstanding this? How can 81% develop mild to moderate symptoms but at least a third do not develop noticeable symptoms? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PermutationCitizen (talk • contribs) 8 May 2021 21:46:37 (UTC)
- It's transcluded from the lead of Symptoms of COVID-19 - I made a change there and purged the page to clarify that the 81% etc are of people who show symptoms. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 22:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
fungus comorbidity
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57027829 - should this be added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.30.115 (talk • contribs)
- It'll need secondary sources WP:MEDRS or it's just an anecdotal report. I would think we would've seen it before now otherwise. MartinezMD (talk) 03:31, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Here's one, review of 43 case studies. [1] Bakkster Man (talk) 19:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's a good source. With only 43 cases out of millions, it can be mentioned but should be very limited, one sentence perhaps. MartinezMD (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- I was thinking just a link to Mucormycosis somewhere in the complications section. There wasn't a good spot, so I added a sentence at the end for rare complications. Bakkster Man (talk) 23:01, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's a good source. With only 43 cases out of millions, it can be mentioned but should be very limited, one sentence perhaps. MartinezMD (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Here's one, review of 43 case studies. [1] Bakkster Man (talk) 19:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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Role of the mitochondria in the immunopathology
Can anything relevant be said about the role of the mitochondria in relation to the immune response (see [2], [3])? If yes, it would be worth mentioning it here I think, all the more as I start seeing some non-scientific (des-)information about the role of the mitochondria in COVID-19 and Long Covid on the Internet, so it would be good to be able to put it in context. Thanks --Chris Howard (talk) 05:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Are there better source? That journal is not great, lacking MEDLINE indexing. Alexbrn (talk) 05:42, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- How do you see in PubMed if an article has MEDLINE indexing? The two of them are both indicated as Review articles in PubMed:
- Burtscher J, Cappellano G, Omori A, Koshiba T, Millet GP (October 2020). "Mitochondria: In the Cross Fire of SARS-CoV-2 and Immunity". iScience. 23 (10): 101631. doi:10.1016/j.isci.2020.101631. PMC 7524535. PMID 33015593.
- Ganji R, Reddy PH (2020). "Impact of COVID-19 on Mitochondrial-Based Immunity in Aging and Age-Related Diseases". Frontiers in Aging Neuroscience. 12: 614650. doi:10.3389/fnagi.2020.614650. PMC 7835331. PMID 33510633.
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- and there are some more:
- Gatti P, Ilamathi HS, Todkar K, Germain M (2020). "Mitochondria Targeted Viral Replication and Survival Strategies-Prospective on SARS-CoV-2". Frontiers in Pharmacology. 11: 578599. doi:10.3389/fphar.2020.578599. PMC 7485471. PMID 32982760.
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- Gatti P, Ilamathi HS, Todkar K, Germain M (2020). "Mitochondria Targeted Viral Replication and Survival Strategies-Prospective on SARS-CoV-2". Frontiers in Pharmacology. 11: 578599. doi:10.3389/fphar.2020.578599. PMC 7485471. PMID 32982760.
- Do these indications help any further? --Chris Howard (talk) 21:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, all those sources lack MEDLINE indexing. According to the MED project, all those reviews cannot be used since this is a medical topic. Perhaps, the above editor and the MED project will make an exception. I'm ok with those reviews being used, however, I focus on virology/science articles. --Guest2625 (talk) 06:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- How do you see in PubMed if an article has MEDLINE indexing? The two of them are both indicated as Review articles in PubMed:
Censorship based on WP:IDONTLIKEIT
As has been widely reported in recent days, the hypothesis that Covid-19 might have escaped from a laboratory has been given increased credibility. We should not claim it to be a fact, but nor should we censor it when reliable sources reported it. Unfortunately, some users are now doing the latter - repeatedly deleting any reference to the hypothesis without any valid explanation beyond WP:IDONTLIKEIT. One user even deleted it with the edit summary "crappy sourcing", which looks rather silly when the source is Science, one of the world's most respected scientific journals. Jeppiz (talk) 09:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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