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On 29 November 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Forged in Fire (TV series) to Forged in Fire. The result of the discussion was moved.

Errr, what?

"Willis is a former Army Ranger and decorated Air Force para-rescue specialist." A Ranger AND a PJ? Why not a Navy Seal while the going is good? Considering this is two completely different branches of the US military...proof of this?85.229.51.18 (talk) 18:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Joined the army in 93 for 5 years serving in 3rd Battalion 75th Ranger Regt then transferred to the Air Force where he served in the 56th Rescue Squadron. Since the 80's all service branches of US special forces serve under Special Operations Command. WatcherZero (talk) 07:52, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's also not unheard of to serve in multiple branches. A Korean War Air Force ace (fighter pilot, officer) returned to service as an Army helicopter pilot (NCO) in Vietnam -- 67.70.26.89 (talk) 04:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neilson is back

Neilson came back for "The Cinquedea", should we keep track in the episode list?Naraht (talk) 19:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keeping track of the left hand judge...

Should we somehow indicate in the tables which of the episodes the two master bladesmiths have been in?Naraht (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikilinking of episode titles

Does anyone else find the wikilinking of the episode titles unusual? For example, at Forged in Fire (TV series)#Season 7 (2019):

Ep 12: "The Pira" links to a dab page
Ep 14: "Frankish Throwing Axes" links to two different articles
Ep 9: "Military Tribute" seems like an WP:OVERLINK
Ep 6: "The Boa-zande Sword"

There are many instances of each of these, and probably other types of unusual links. I don't recall seeing this sort of linking in other episode lists – the titles are either linked to an article specifically about that episode or not linked at all.

Also, some of the titles are either unquoted (e.g. Ep 15) or have the quotes around part of the title (e.g. Ep 3). Is this correct? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 04:21, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Wikilinking the terms constituting episode titles is misleading. Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 12:23, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand the editors' intent with, and utility of most of them, since the series apparently mostly uses the names of particular swords for its episode titles. I'm just not sure we should be doing that. A parallel example might be, e.g., List of Mayday episodes#Season 19 (2019), which names some episodes after specific incidents, some of which we have articles for (e.g., Ep 12.13 Air France Flight 447, Ep 11.5 Munich air disaster), but those are not linked. The alternative used in that article is a notes column for the link to the subject article for the episode. Reviewing and possibly pinging Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television ... —[AlanM1(talk)]— 05:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Knowing the series, the episode title should not be linked, but there is zero harm in adding a column that describes the final weapon challenge of each episode which can be linked. Yes, 9/10 episodes of this series will have the title the same as the weapon, but this approach also cleanly handles the special episodes. --Masem (t) 05:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In accordance with WP:EGG, I don't feel the episode titles should be linked unless and until they are linking to articles about the episodes themselves. DonIago (talk) 06:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Only links should be to episode articles themselves. Same as this edit that I recently made. -- /Alex/₂₁ 06:26, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm cool with the change. This most recent Family episode really should have a link to Princess Bride.Naraht (talk) 12:50, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done for now. If someone wants to review the links, that would be great; some of it I wasn't really sure about. The final weapon is missing for some eps. None of the tables have inline cites, so I've no idea about a few spelling discrepancies (e.g., Partizan/Partisan, Pira/Pirah), or really the accuracy of any of it. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Each episode's final weapon can be found at the episode for watching the page at (for example) https://www.history.com/shows/forged-in-fire/season-6/episode-10 for the Army. I'm not sure what show up if you don't have an account. I'll try to fill in the rest...Naraht (talk) 07:13, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Correct mistake

How do you get a mistake corrected in a name spelling Jrcaston (talk) 03:54, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JrcastonWhat smith and Episode? And did the show get it right or wrong in the introductions?Naraht (talk) 13:23, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021: Episode list (split off)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

An editor performed a bold edit by proceeding with the proposed article split. Reasons include: 1) No recent discussion producing results. 2) No objection has been expressed.

The episode list should be separated into a separate list article. There's already 8 seasons of episodes, that' lengthy. -- 67.70.26.89 (talk) 04:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. The article is exceptionally lengthy with all the episode tables. Shows with less seasons/episodes have already been split. Splitting the article would also be a good time for reformatting and adding even more useful information into the tables. CYAce01 (talk) 06:45, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What happens to the winning blades?

Each of the blades entered into the competition is surrendered to the judges including, surprisingly, the winning blades. What's done with each of those surrendered blades? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.93.208.196 (talk) 01:17, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The show keeps them, and they go on display on the walls around the set. :) - Bilby (talk) 01:19, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 November 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. I see a reasonably clear consensus to move and the arguments by the supporters (that the TV series is a clear primary topic) are stronger than those of the single opposer. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 17:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

– Pretty strong case for a primary topic, with pageviews that eclipse that of the only other exact title match, Forged in Fire (album), which does not seem overly notable. 162 etc. (talk) 22:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how this will look a decade from now. See Wikipedia:Recentism#Suggestions_for_dealing_with_recentism. Sparkie82 (t•c) 01:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
While one can assume that the pageviews will go down following the conclusion of the show, I still believe that a TV series which has aired for 9 seasons on a well-known American network could be seen as primary over an album that never charted and is best described as "niche." 162 etc. (talk) 19:35, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Clear WP:Primary topic. Can be moved back in 10 years if necessary. Station1 (talk) 20:22, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The fact that there is already a disambiguation page for Forged in Fire (for TV and a band's album), Forged in the Fire, etc, should justify using the "(TV series)" addition to the title. The current title is already set up for clarity, regardless of notability. Also, both the TV series AND the album are italicized works, further justifying the names already in place to help decrease ambiguity. CYAce01 (talk) 08:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, overwhelming primary topic. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:04, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Season 8 vs Season 9

Episodes post August 2021 are being placed under a "season 9". I have an iTunes subscription to season 8 and I've been getting all episodes including "200th Episode: Fan's Choice" as part of that.

I.e. season 9 has not started yet and all episodes currently under 9 should be moved to 8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elliot Shank (talk • contribs) 17:16, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Elliot Shank: According to the Forged in Fire Facebook page (announcement dated November 8, 2021), the new season premiered on December 8, 2021. Even history.com is misleading since they don't update their own series and can't be taken seriously. Therefore, the info is good as is (for now). CYAce01 (talk) 00:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Filming Location

The section under Filming a set design is incorrect when it says FIF is filmed in Brooklyn.

I'm having trouble finding a source that meets standards but I know for a fact it's been filmed in Stamford CT since at least season 5 except when they are at some special location.

This is backed up by the credits https://i.imgur.com/sG65NLK.png and any number of blogs of contestants.

https://marksmithknives.com/pages/forged-in-fire-appearance

https://www.graberforge.com/new-page-5 2601:182:900:75B0:5F11:D5A:56C9:EE14 (talk) 21:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]