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Hyphens?

Is live action supposed to be hyphenated? I see many articles linking here that have it hyphenated. --Dan East 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was also wondering that. It makes a lot more sense having a hyphen. Hucz (talk) 21:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page has recently been moved to "live-action", but I have an issue with it. As an adjectival phrase the hyphenation is normal usage. However, as a stand alone term, which it is as the title of this page, it should not be hyphenated. If you asked "did the movie have live action?" you would not hyphenate it (because "action" is a noun and "live" is the adjective in that phrasing), only if you said "was it a live-action movie?" In this title the term as a whole is not being used as an adjective, so should not be hyphenated. Thoughts? Ryan Paddy (talk) 09:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oy, this could get confusing. Yes, you're right that as a stand-alone term, "live" modifies the noun "action", and there is no possible confusion about the meaning of "live action" in that context. But isn't this article about the term as a modifier (viz the first sentence, " 'live-action' refers to works..." and therefore should be considered an adjectival phrase? GreetingsEarthling (talk) 16:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Live-action" and "live action" both mean exactly the same thing, it's just a question of where you're using it in a sentence as to which is normally used. So the article is about both, because they are identical. Both could be used in the article text, depending on the context. But the title of the article currently doesn't work. As a stand-alone term, "live action" would be the norm I think. Ryan Paddy (talk) 22:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, the title could be changed to "live-action film". Film is a fairly generic term that could cover video/TV. How theatre can be animated is not clear to me, even though it says it can in this article. Ryan Paddy (talk) 01:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh fuggin' Christ.

Origin?

Any evidence about where and when this odd, awkward phrase originated? The earliest I recall seeing it was in comic-book advertisements promoting Saturday-morning TV show line-ups in the fall during the early 1970s. It was a strange phrase but generally got the idea across, so I have always assumed the TV networks originated it, for lack of a better phrase. Can anyone cite an earlier use of "live action"? Asat (talk) 10:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I find it annoying when included in every film article replacing the word 'film,' I think 'movie' or 'film' gets the term across in a vastly superior way to 'live action,' the first time I ever encountered the phrase was in the last decade or less on Wikipedia, and the only place I ever seen the phrase is on Wikipedia. I don't see it's relevance, as it seems to make this assumption that all movies are otherwise animated. The default of a film should be that it is, precisely that, a film. <!//– ☠ ʇdɯ0ɹd ɥsɐq ☠ // user // talk // twitter //–> 07:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Though not much of a source, Dictionary.com and Merriam-webster seem to suggest that the term dates back to the 1950s. I'm pretty young, and never considered it a "new word". I use it pretty often too. I'm not sure where I encountered the phrase first, but it definitely wasn't Wikipedia. That's about all I know, though... ~Mable (chat) 08:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 February 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is that usage often reflects contexts in which the term is an adjective and that's why it's hyphenated, while here we have a noun which is normally not hyphenated. (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 20:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Live action → Live-action – I've been reviewing several third-party sources, and it seems that the WP:COMMONNAME for this subject includes the hyphen between the words. Steel1943 (talk) 19:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The hyphen occurs when it's an adjective ("live-action foo"), but article titles are noun forms. Note that this means I would support moving Live action role-playing game to Live-action role-playing game and List of Case Closed live action drama episodes to List of Case Closed live-action drama episodes (those were the only other examples I could find). Dekimasuよ! 19:26, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As stated above it's a noun not an adjective here, so there should be no hyphen. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Moot point, we already have a redirect. --Janke | Talk 18:10, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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