Talk:The Haunted Mask (Goosebumps episode)

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 11:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Haunted Mask (TV special) → The Haunted Mask (Goosebumps episode) – This is the TV pilot movie/premiere episode of the Goosebumps (TV series), as given on List of Goosebumps episodes#Season 1 (1995–96). Per WP:NCTV#Episode and character articles, it should use the series title as disambiguation along with "episode" to distinguish from the Goosebumps book of the same name. Additionally, WP:NCTV does not recommend use of "(TV special)" in any case. -- Netoholic @ 09:56, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Both "Goosebumps episode" and "TV special" are used by reliable sources to describe it. Since Goosebumps episode is more consistent with the guidelines, I support using it here. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 23:03, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:CONSISTENCY and WP:NCTV, and general logic (a pilot is not a TV special; someone doesn't know their media terminology). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:00, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A TV pilot could be considered a TV special, depending on the definition of a TV special you use. The Haunted Mask was marketed by Fox as a special, presumably because it aired during a time slot that is normally reserved for other programming. There are also a handful of sources that refer to it as a special (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5). That does bring up a good point though, the fact that some would not consider this to be a special is a good reason to consider changing the title of the article. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 02:17, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you picked up the key word there "marketed". Television specials are an amorphous collection mostly because its a marketing term, not a defined format or genre. In this case, its an episode marketed as a TV special much like how you can have a film like The Wizard of Oz marketed as a special also. -- Netoholic @ 05:18, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 05:54, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Argento Surfer (talk · contribs) 14:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Any point I raise is open to discussion. Once complete, I will claim this review for points in the 2018 wikicup. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
These are my edits. Any of them can be revised/reverted if you do not like them.
I like them. My only change was correcting a minor typo. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, gosh. Thanks for catching that... Argento Surfer (talk) 12:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The source cited (#8) for the VHS release date only says the VHS "made its home video debut last week". I suggest adding source #9 to this sentence as well, since it gives the specific date.
Added. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"in 1994, Margaret Loesch, formerly the CEO of Fox Kids," - according to her article, she was still the CEO in 1994. I suggest revising this to "then-CEO", "the CEO of Fox Kids at the time", or some other wording that indicates she wasn't a former CEO in 1994.
Changed to "the CEO of Fox Kids at the time". Fearstreetsaga (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
no cocnern
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
no concern

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
no concern

C. It contains no original research:
no concern

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
no concern. AGF for the print/subscription sources.
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
I remember the initial broadcast being during primetime, but that may have been a local decision. This detail isn't necessary to pass GA, but it might be something to look into if you plan to improve the article further.
Added. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! Argento Surfer (talk) 12:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
no concern
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
no concern
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
no concern
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
no concern

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
no concern
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
There are a few points under 1A that I don't feel comfortable addressing myself. Otherwise, this one looks pretty good. Argento Surfer (talk) 15:47, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing the article. I made the relevant changes. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good here. Happy to pass this one. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image removal

A user keeps removing the image of the VHS without explaining why, so I thought I would start a discussion. MOS:TVIMAGE says that an image can be used for an individual episode article if a home media cover is available for the episode. This is certainly the case here. Not to mention the VHS is discussed in the article as well. I think the image should be kept. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 00:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]