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Hello Alexi! I am afraid I am not really knowledgeable on the subject. What I can see is that, despite the monarch at the top, the federal structure of the League existed below, as the citations in [[Epirote League]] show. I also favour [[Epirus (ancient state)]] as a title, since it is usually perceived as a unitary state, but perhaps this duality of the monarch/hegemon and the League of Epirote communities ought to be given a bit more emphasis? Regards, and keep up the good work! [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]] [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 11:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello Alexi! I am afraid I am not really knowledgeable on the subject. What I can see is that, despite the monarch at the top, the federal structure of the League existed below, as the citations in [[Epirote League]] show. I also favour [[Epirus (ancient state)]] as a title, since it is usually perceived as a unitary state, but perhaps this duality of the monarch/hegemon and the League of Epirote communities ought to be given a bit more emphasis? Regards, and keep up the good work! [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]] [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 11:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Why do you lie on your comments on Epir? Why do you erase me editions?
Give reasons if you a man, and if you are a coward nationalist keep your silence, for I can deal with it differently.


== DYK ==
== DYK ==

Revision as of 23:10, 3 September 2009

Saranda

Alexi - whether you like it or not, except Frasheri, these are notable people from Saranda. Plus, they are of Greek origin. Feel free to look them up. Thanks.

Map

Hi Alexi, excellent work on the map! A couple of suggestions to improve it (if you feel like it).

  • The spacing on some city names (e.g. Onchesmos, Kourestos, etc...) is uneven and makes them hard to read.
  • You might want to use a different color for cities that are settlements of the indigenous Chaonians and Dassaretae (e.g. Himara), and different colors for colonies (Epidamnos, Apollonia).
  • You might also consider using a larger font and marker for the larger and more important settlements, like Apollonia and Epidamnus, to differentiate them from the smaller ones.

Just some friendly suggestions. Keep up the good work. --Athenean (talk) 05:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi, take a look please[1].

Botsaris

Souliotes were an ethnic ALbanian community which became integrated to the Greek nation. Markos Botsaris lived at a time that Souliotes may have not been integrated into the Greek nation, per Talk:Souliotes.Balkanian`s word (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am certain that the IP is User:Deucalionite, I am reporting him now.Balkanian`s word (talk) 09:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am not reverting it, but if you do not add any comment on the talk page; argument I mean; I will. Balkanian`s word (talk) 09:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hoxha

I see. I did not doubt that such evidence existed, it is after all stated that he had "previous convictions", what I am more interested in is whether these activities were indeed brigandage or "resistance" activities presented as such. Could you point me to some sources (preferably online)? Cheers, Constantine 22:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Botsaris

Aleksi, there was no edit war in that page; so please stop refering to it as such. It was me reverting a sockpuppet, thus not an edit war. The page, should be in its prior status (prior IP invasion I mean). You know that I am willing to discuss about it; I put my thoughts in the talk page; but please I get my point that that page is about Botsaris not about Souliotes in general; as I have stated, and the reasoning is put on "Sources" section of the talk page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chams

Can you discuss in the talk page before making changes to the article? Aigest (talk) 07:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your proposal, but I think that chams talk page is more appropriate place for it. Other editors who have contributed greatly to this article (eg like BW) might have their opinion. You guys have agreed before on this topic so I don't see it difficult to agree again. Aigest (talk) 09:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See chams talk page and tell me what you think of my prop? Aigest (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chams

Don't revert Aigest. I am reporting him to AN3. THis is getting ridiculous. --Athenean (talk) 07:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your speedy deletion tag from Albanian exodus. Please note that the reason you gave is not one of the criteria for speedy deletion. If you still wish to nominate the article for deletion, you can do so at AfD. -- King of 00:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chams

I am back, you have my response on the talk page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you have my answer.Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanas Ziko

I have mostly Albanian communist texts in Albanian official history. Seems that none has written enough on the topic, but I consider them trusted (at least no POV here) apart the numbers in the battles which should be confirmed by other authors or Italian or German reports. Aigest (talk) 12:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have created the page here Thanas Ziko battalion More material will be added according to Albanian history books since I have not found other material other than that of Albanian books. Interestingly there is an Albanian documentary for the Partisan XIX Shock Brigade [2] (Thanas Ziko became part of it later in summer 1944) but I couldn't find it in net. Could you please edit the Greek pronunciation (I am not capable of:) or other categories like Greeks resistance or regulate relevant links to Greek History etc? Thanks Aigest (talk) 13:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pyrrhus the Greek?

I believe that there should be a discussion about this undisputed ethnicity of Pyrrhus. If we look at what Plutarch had to say about it, Pyrrhus was an Epirotian, and there is no real fact that Epritores were greeks. They were Epirotes. The fut notes in the mentioned text were of Greek scientist or were totally in contradiction with what the Wikipedia text says about it MadAlbanian (talk) 14:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alexis the Epirotian (that's for sure)

For your participation to the Epirus related articles some (very) old guys hereby awarding you a fustanela and a membership to the replacement company of the 1/38 Evzone Regiment. Congratulations. --MadFactuarius (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

For your edit warring across multiple articles in last few hours, I have blocked you for 72 hours. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of possible ARBMAC sanctions

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also notes

So far I've checked (i'm ready to provide info, he is verifiable in googlebooks), there are no discrepancies and the facts are clear and comfirmed by other 'meanstream' works. . Actually he is accused only by pro-Albanian sources (Vickers, albania.com). I hardly believe this can be a real accusation.

I see that he adopts a anti-communist approach according to cold-war issues, but the events described are of pre-cold war period (and most important comfirmed.

Summary:

  • He describes the deportation of Jews from Albania (1942)-something that is confirmed by a number of books and institutions.
  • He describes Mavi (greek resistance group in s. albania)-Ballist (albanian collaborationists) vicious fighting (1942-44), something even the ones that accuse him comfirm [[3]], [[4]].
  • About Borova massacre, he does not say that it happened in October 1943 (I have to apologize it was my fault, cos I wrote it accidentaly in the article, so I'm responsible for this discrepancy). There was a reprisal mission by the Germans because of partisan activity in the surrounding region (the Germans had the support of Albanian collaborationists group- the 'Ballists'-, and the Greek group-MAVI- was under a kind of cooparetion with the communists guerrillas that period).
  • According to F.p.'s quote, it's not inside the book itself, but

Ruches is mentioned in a number of Epirus related articles in wiki, and the facts he describes are confirmed and in full accordance: Jews deportation from Albania, Mavi-Albanian collaborationist fighting etc.

Sources that confirm Ruches

Apart from the deportation of Jews from Albania, which is described in the article's talk page, about Mavi-Balists conflicts:

Some detailed descriptions of N.E.l.f. give these books:

It mentions the agreement between the Greek-Albanian (Mavi) resistance and the communist Albanians (p. 200) and some conflicts with Ballists (in Libochovo p. 200 and in Gjirokaster p. 248). [[5]] [[6]], [[7]]

I try to explain as simple as I can, that Ruches mentions facts that do not create discrepancies. Because a number of sources doesn't mention MAVI as resistance group it doesn't mean that it was non existent (it had a minor role in Albanian resistance especially at the country;s liberation).

For example, we have plenty of 'mainstream' sources about Greek occupation (1941-1944) that don't say a word about Cham Albanian participation in Greek resistance. Could this mean that it was non-existent? off course not, there are books that are focused on Cham topics and mention the related events.

Would you consider not to base your work on snippet views, as I see here [8] the source say "in 12 February the chiefs of Red bands of Hodja (Enver Hoxha communist leader of FNC so actually partisan groups (sic)) held a meeting in Theologue monastery" what about the conference of MAVI as Ruches says? In the same place same date? Why red bands? Or MAVI was a communist force leaded by a moslem (Hodja)? Man stop with snippet views, at least finds a source which is partially readable Aigest (talk) 07:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not only Ruches, Pearson too [[9]] p.237. Why do you always make partly filtered researches? Alexikoua (talk) 08:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you didn't get my point, Ruches says one thing while de Loverdo claims the exact opposite(?!). Can't you see that even the sources you say support Ruches are contradictory with him? Man that is hilarious Aigest (talk) 13:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would be hilarious if there wasn't an agreement between them mention before in the same sources. About your question I decided not to take part in that debate any more.Alexikoua (talk) 21:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome in WP:GREECE

And congratulations for your GA! Great job!--Yannismarou (talk) 09:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

July 2009

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Encyclopedia Britannica and illyria/albania

If you go to http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/12472/Albania you will see that this encyclopedia has a different approach to Illyrians that than the one presented here. I just thought that Encyclopedia Britannica's information would enrich this page. As I see it, most of the information on this page comes from this one author John Wilkes. More sources would improve this page, don't you think? AnnaFabiano (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo and welcome! Since, most of the bibliography presented states that the Illyrian-Albanian continuity is possible but there are also many counterarguments presented in Origin of Albanian, the sentence:

'The northern tribes were slavicised in the course of the Middle Ages, while the Albanians may represent an instance of southern Illyrian (or Thraco-Illyrian) continuity.'

seems to be enough for the lead. The conclusion of certain Illyrian-Albanian continuity in the lead is for sure misleading.Alexikoua (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Epirus

Hello Alexi! I am afraid I am not really knowledgeable on the subject. What I can see is that, despite the monarch at the top, the federal structure of the League existed below, as the citations in Epirote League show. I also favour Epirus (ancient state) as a title, since it is usually perceived as a unitary state, but perhaps this duality of the monarch/hegemon and the League of Epirote communities ought to be given a bit more emphasis? Regards, and keep up the good work! Constantine 11:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you lie on your comments on Epir? Why do you erase me editions? Give reasons if you a man, and if you are a coward nationalist keep your silence, for I can deal with it differently.

DYK

Hello! Your submission of Epirus (ancient state) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! King of 17:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You article

Hey its a fine article, i can work on it when i have the time.What is this dyk ?Megistias (talk) 20:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Epirus (ancient state)

Updated DYK query On August 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Epirus (ancient state), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 20:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wellcome back

Wellcome back you POVish-bad boy. Τρελλάθηκες ε? Τι κάνεις? Έχω μιά υπόνοια ότι ήσουν κάπου στην Ήπειρο αλλά δεν μπορώ να το αποδείξω..--Factuarius (talk) 17:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mitralexis image

Hello! Your submission of Marinos Mitralexis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Binksternet (talk) 17:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the image is problematic. On the one hand, you have uploaded it under a wrong fair use rationale (it is appropriate only when discussing an artwork/artist). You could try the {{Non-free historic image}} template, but again, the picture may be considered as not necessary to the article, so it may get deleted at some point (I am not an expert on the finer points of copyright). I have however uploaded the photo of Mitralexis himself, with the proper rationales, which should be OK. Constantine 10:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to use that 1883 book to confirm some of the details in the article. Another user came to us in IRC over a Greek/Albanian dispute and tried to use sources to flesh information out. I am an idiot when it comes to Greece and Albania, my forte is usually Japan and Eastern Europe. But, if I could help solve a dispute, I will. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marinos Mitralexis

Updated DYK query On August 28, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marinos Mitralexis, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

NW (Talk) 23:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sameis Star trek tribe

Hello i saw an imaginary "Star trek" tribe sameis in chameria related articles.There is no such thing in primary or secondary historical sources.Its made up.I know you did not put it there but what is going on?Megistias (talk) 09:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alexikoua. Thanks and have you a good and productive winter also. I am back also. I have sent you some photos taken during my holidays in Epirus (Konitsa, Nekromanteio, Ioannina, Mouseio kerinon omoiomaton), I hope to like and find them useful, since I am out feel free to use them if you think so. I have more and I am thinking to use them in the Epirus article. Regards, --Factuarius (talk) 14:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed your nomination, and unfortunately it did not pass the GA criteria. When the article is improved, you may re-nominate it for GA status.--Alarichus (talk) 16:27, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up

Hello, could you help me clean this up? Illyrian warfare. I wrote it.Megistias (talk) 16:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Albania Census

Can you please not hurry when making changes. These things tend to be very fragile, and we do not need to rush and make biased moves. We were making very good progress on the talk page. See you there! AnnaFabiano (talk) 11:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]