User talk:89.132.194.169

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Happy editing! Randykitty (talk) 12:56, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Magitroopa (talk) 18:49, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Magitroopa:: Could you please describe why do you think that Joshua Dionisio and Joshua Dela Cruz are the same person? Did you check given references??? Did you check the existing person in articles I linked to Joshua Dela Cruz, are valid??? 89.132.194.169 (talk) 20:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've said plenty of times in the past that they are not the same person. However, this is not even close to enough information to pass WP:NOTABILITY or WP:NACTOR, even if he is the host of Blue's Clues & You!- just one credit, major or not, is not enough. See how Cooper Barnes doesn't have enough info/pass notability for a full article, so his name currently redirects to his Henry Danger character. And FYI, I believe Joshua Dela Cruz currently redirects to the Joshua Dionisio page as per his full name, 'Ralph Joshua Dela Cruz Dionisio'.

There needs to be way more sources and more information to be notable to include, and way more sources than just the one source (not counting IMDb as a source, as stated in my revert, see WP:CITINGIMDB/WP:RS/IMDB).

I'm also not the best with creating new articles or how articles should be named, but with the redirect currently going to Dionisio, a consensus may need to be made among editors to have the redirect be for the Blue's Clues Dela Cruz, or some naming changes may need to be done, such things you tend to see on a disambiguation page (example). Hope this helps. Magitroopa (talk) 20:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh... I hate it went I forget to mention something- it would probably be better to work on it in a draft at the moment... Magitroopa (talk) 20:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Magitroopa: Sorry but you are completely wrong! If you think He is not notable then you should put a deletion request on the article for that reason, maybe others think else (why would you think that he had not have significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions?) or others would put more or proper references in it. But it is absolutely unacceptable to revert the deletion of the redirect if you agree he is not the same person. Moreover why the hell did you reverted the links I did for him, what is the reason for that??? Why is it better to leave the lexicon to mislead people, saying they are the same? 89.132.194.169 (talk) 20:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC) (You are also saying controversal things 1. "I've said plenty of times in the past that they are not the same person" and 2. "I believe Joshua Dela Cruz currently redirects to the Joshua Dionisio page as per his full name, 'Ralph Joshua Dela Cruz Dionisio'." 89.132.194.169 (talk) 20:55, 31 May 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Again, I know they are not the same person- but the current linkage is based off of Dionisio's full name- 'Ralph Joshua Dela Cruz Dionisio'. Hosting Blue's Clues & You! and a role in a Broadway production is way too little to even pass WP:NACTOR as I've stated before- also note that the redirect was made back in September 2018. Also see WP:BASIC- you need WAY more sources for him to pass anything at all. As I stated previously, a draft would be the best place to work on this until it is even remotely ready for the mainspace... Finally, please keep in mind that there is absolutely no rush to get an article made for someone. 'To differentiate between the two' is not a reason to rush out an article quickly about him, especially with barely any sources about him. WP:BLP is also another one to look through. Bottom line, you need sources. Again, feel free to make a draft to work on it before it is ready for mainspace. Thank you. Magitroopa (talk) 21:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Magitroopa:Again!!! Please if you believe they are not the same then would you explain why do you think the redirect is the proper solution instead of having a red link for Joshua Dela Cruz? Here are references to prove he is not the same and per now (as you reverted my links to him) there are not any links to his name (Dionisio is everywhere linked to Joshua Dionisio ) 89.132.194.169 (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kaulessar, Ricardo (October 9, 2018). "Blue's Clues returns with New Milford High alum as host"". The Record (Bergen County). Retrieved October 10, 2018.
Rachel Chang (December 17, 2019). "How The New Host Of 'Blue's Clues' Joshua Dela Cruz Is Changing The Face Of Children's Television". Forbes.
Mark Kennedy (November 19, 2019). "Meet the man picked to be host of the 'Blue's Clues' reboot". The Detroit News.
Andrew Gans (March 18, 2020). "Aladdin and Blue's Clues & You Star Joshua Dela Cruz's 10 Favorite Theatregoing Experiences". Playbill.

Yes, I know they are not the same person. As I've said multiple times however, the article still fails to pass any of things I mentioned earlier (WP:NOTABILITY, WP:NACTOR, WP:BASIC, etc.) I'm not saying to work on it as a draft because of the two names of the actors, I'm saying to work on it as a draft because there needs to be way more sources used, and way more credits/major credits, as are listed in those guidelines I've linked. One Broadway role and hosting the new Blue's Clues series is still way too little information to warrant an article for him. That previous version fails to pass any of those guidelines. It needs some time/work as a draft.

As for the current state as a redirect to Dionisio- I do see now that no other articles link to that redirect. That does not mean that it automatically is changed to talk about the Blue's Clues actor- it still needs to meet those guidelines. I'm sure a deletion for the redirect can be arranged so that redirect that is not in-use will not be there. Again though, Dela Cruz's article needs more time in draftspace before ready for mainspace. A deletion of the redirect does not mean that it can never be used again- just that the current redirect is deleted, and when a draft for the Blue's Clues Dela Cruz is ready, it can then be used accordingly.

I mean no rudeness to you or or dislike towards Dela Cruz for this, but guidelines must be followed. A draft for him (Probably at Draft:Joshua Dela Cruz) is the best way to go about this until it is ready for mainspace, the current redirect can easily get deleted before that occurs. Thank you. Magitroopa (talk) 21:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Magitroopa: Sorry, but all I say is, that if somebody looking for Dela Cruz of Blue Clue now will get to Dionisio without any notice that they are not the same person. If I could delete the redirect I do. What I still do not understand why you reverted all the links of him and his redirect page to Dionisio instead of keeping the links and deleting the new page of him on the basis of WP:NOTABILITY, allowing to see by the red links that this person is not the same as Dionisio. Please delete the redirect. Thanks 89.132.194.169 (talk)

Sterling silver

If you had an account, I would have been able to just tick the 'thank you' button but as you don't, let me give you the 'thank you' here. It cleared up sloppy writing in the original.

Now for your next task, find the missing citation! :-) --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:44, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@John Maynard Friedman: Thanks very much. Actually I do have an account... but I do not use it. It is because there was a long debate on a Hungarian discussion wiki forum about anonim users, and at the end I chose to edit this way as a demonstration.

(I see the problem of the Hallmark section, not only the missing citations (also in the main article silver hallmarks) but the thing that hallmark for sterling silver and other purity silvers are not differentiated clearly.) John, 89.132.194.169 (talk) 22:06, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, you will know that you are not an anonymous user, you are an IP user. (You realise of course that JMF is not my real name). Having a named account just makes it less likely that you will suffer knee-jerk reversions. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 23:47, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! What I did not know, that this expression is only for Hungarians (hu:Wikipédia:Anon) :-) 89.132.194.169 (talk) 15:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Joshua Dela Cruz

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 (talk) 02:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Joshua Dela Cruz

Hello, 89.132.194.169. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Joshua Dela Cruz".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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