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(t · c) buidhe 02:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Personal comments at Republican party article

If you take issue with my demeanor, please do not use the article talk page to air your grievances. You should simply go on my talk page to do that. That said, I do not see where I made any personal attacks or cast any aspersions your way. Your reply, on the other hand, is very clearly personal in nature and not *entirely* focused on the discussion. I humbly and politely ask that you do not make that mistake again. DN (talk) 01:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

You dismissed what I was saying as "alt history", which seemed to me like an extremely clear insult - that what I was saying was so far removed from reality that it sounds fake. Especially when I was actually offering sources, that's extremely insulting, and my mild barb was tame in comparison to that. If you refrain from doing such things in the future, I doubt you'll experience me saying what I did again. Toa Nidhiki05 01:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Second opinion: I don’t see anything wrong with your comment, but apparently DN takes it as personal for pointing out that you found it rude. Your comment looks like healthy communication to me. People need to know when someone thinks they are acting out the ordinary, we can’t just be quiet about it. Viriditas (talk) 02:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

That's entirely fair. Regardless, the discussion has been productive (I think?) aside from those two things, so I'd like to keep it that way. Toa Nidhiki05 02:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect. I was comparing on your argument to the entry Alt Wiki page, since it focuses heavily on the Free Soil party which you have repeatedly referred to. I did not comment on you personally. You also said I "chopped out" parts of the sourced context, which can be seen as implying dubious behavior on my part. I initiated the discussion in good faith to avoid reverting, and now you seem to be repaying my efforts with threats of more of the same behavior. Not a good look. DN (talk) 02:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

If you say something I feel is rude, I will say I felt it was rude. This is a normal thing for people to do, I think? Also, I have not threatened to revert on the page. Toa Nidhiki05 02:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I can appreciate that what I said may have been construed as dismissive. For that I will apologize, but know that it wasn't intended that way, and that such commentary is probably best left to personal talk pages. Agreed? Truce? DN (talk) 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Toa Nidhiki05 15:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

The only reason I bring this up is because I have recently realized that I have unintentionally been extremely rude to Toa Nidhiki05 in the past without ever being cognizant of it. I think there’s a possibility others might be doing this too, I don’t know. Viriditas (talk) 02:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your constructive comments on the Republican Party article

Hi Toa, I want to thank you for your constructive comments on the Republican Party article. Your suggestion about organizing by caucuses and creation of a mockup was very helpful to the debate and really opened up my eyes as to other ways to potentially organize that section of the page. Once I have some more time I will respond with another mockup based off of yours that I think may satisfy all sides of this discussion. BootsED (talk) 15:11, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks BootsED! I'm glad it at least sparked something - I'm hoping we can come up with a solution that pleases (most) everyone here. Toa Nidhiki05 17:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring on GOP article

The GOP article is on 1RR. You have already violated that policy. I suggest you get consensus for your changes instead of doing that. Cortador (talk) 22:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

When? I haven’t even edited the page today. Multiple other editors are fine with the change, as it is, and I’ve been careful to avoid violating any rules. Perhaps you could discuss the reasons why you think the six sources in question are bad? The others don’t seem to think so. Toa Nidhiki05 23:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

You reverted twice on June 19. Cortador (talk) 09:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Just checked and no, I didn’t. I edited the page once that day?Toa Nidhiki05 12:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Got to admit, I was surprised to learn the GOP is center right in 2024. Any particular politicians or positions come to mind? Viriditas (talk) 22:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Reliable sources indicate at least three House factions (Governance Coaliton, Study Committee, Main Street Caucus) are center or center-right while the freedom caucus is right-wing or far-right. It’s also the smallest of the bunch. I’m just going off of the sources, though. Toa Nidhiki05 23:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

On the face of it, that’s a very interesting argument, but I’m not sure how persuasive it is. I do admit, however, that some aspects of this are likely true. I heard an NPR segment about a week or so ago that addressed this; I will try and track it down. Viriditas (talk) 00:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Followup: NPR's website used to be easy to search, but I can find almost nothing now. I did find this article, but it's not the one I was talking about. I suspect the show I'm talking about is buried within the main site. I will keep looking. Viriditas (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that's interesting enough - I'd heard they were finally pushing some outreach there. In the meantime, here's an interesting one from WaPo on House GOP factions. There is overlap between factions, but it's a really nice look at how things actually play out - and just how out of whack the Freedom Caucus (and specifically, the hardest fringe edge) is with everyone else. Toa Nidhiki05 20:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I will read that article. I'm a bit unsettled by the fact that it is so hard to find archival news articles these days. I heard the segment 1-2 weeks ago, so it should be easy to find. Basically, it was a 3-4 minute interview with a GOP congressperson who was arguing (without using the words, of course) that there were still centrist Republicans willing to do bipartisan work with Democrats and get things done. Perhaps you can try to track it down. Viriditas (talk) 20:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Now I'm wondering if I heard it on the BBC, not NPR. Viriditas (talk) 20:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)