Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Queen Sālote Tupou III of Tonga
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 21 Aug 2016 at 14:57:46 (UTC)
- Reason
- A fine picture, very nicely reproduced, of a highly notable person
- Articles in which this image appears
- Sālote Tupou III
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Royalty and nobility
- Creator
- Unknown photographer; Restored by Adam Cuerden
- Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support – very nice restoration. Bammesk (talk) 00:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Side note: source link [1] has the name of the photographer and gives the date as circa 1910, where does 1908 come from?
- Comment - Very nice picture and lovely restoration, but I question the EV for this picture. She was not Queen at that age, so it's essentially a picture of a child. We don't nominate pictures of Churchill, or John Lennon at age 8... I'm not sure I understand why a picture of someone famous as a child would be included in an encyclopedia. Mattximus (talk) 02:51, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
- As biographies, in addition to the subject's prime years, we do cover their youth and later years if the info is available. We do include images at various stages, for example [2]. Whether non-prime-year images should be nominated for FP is a valid question though. My two cents about this particular case: the image is of the daughter of a monarch who became queen. In the absence of a quality image showing her in her prime, I see no harm in nominating a quality image from her youth. Bammesk (talk) 03:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Side note: something to think about, if there were no quality images of Churchill or John Lennon in their prime years, would it be Ok to nominate a quality image of them in their youth? I think the answer is yes, but I could be wrong.
- Oppose - After further consideration, and with full respect to the restoration and quality of the image, I don't think there is any encyclopedic value in a photograph of a person when they were not notable. To me it doesn't really make sense, I can't think of any real life encyclopedia that would include a photo of a famous world figure... as a child. Unless of course they did something notable as a child. Mattximus (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
- We do have a section of the article dedicated to her childhood. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - After further consideration, and with full respect to the restoration and quality of the image, I don't think there is any encyclopedic value in a photograph of a person when they were not notable. To me it doesn't really make sense, I can't think of any real life encyclopedia that would include a photo of a famous world figure... as a child. Unless of course they did something notable as a child. Mattximus (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support - I don't mind showing her before she began her reign. Fantastic image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support - Per Chris.--Godot13 (talk) 19:12, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support-at the time of the picture,she was(and had been since birth)Crown Princess of Tonga.For me,that's notable enough to justify the picture. Lemon martini (talk) 12:22, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support – Jobas (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Comment – @Adam Cuerden: photographer name is Herman John Schmidt per [3]. Also source says circa 1910, where does 8 March 1908 come from? Bammesk (talk) 14:28, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Promoted File:Salote Tupou III of Tonga in 1908.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 14:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)