User talk:Tim O'Doherty

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	Fantastic user page! Absolutely spot on. ——Serial 11:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial - Thanks! Had some time to spare, so instead of being productive decided to mess around on WP. Hopefully a few of them made someone laugh; reckon Private Eye will be good this week. Hopefully don't get sanctioned by ArbCom for some of my Suella jokes either. Cheers — Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:42, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

The latest outing is great  :) "Suella Leatherapron"! ——Serial 21:10, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129 - Ha ha (though, as we're on the subject of Braverman, I should say "haw haw"). Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

GA Reviews

Hello @Tim O'Doherty glad that you passed William, Prince of Wales as GA. That's one more feather in your hat. Now please one humble request from my end. Though you might find it difficult, please take up Catherine's article from the GA Noticeboard for review. No hurries but please take it up. Time will be at your discretion. Regards MSincccc (talk) 16:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@MSincccc - OK. If you really don't mind about the timing, I will. It will probably be a few weeks from now until completion, though. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 16:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Tim O'Doherty Thanks by the way. Also including Keivan.f. He'll prove to be a valuable asset (I suppose) MSincccc (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Just to notify you that it has been 15 days since the last (and only comment) was passed by you. Also we have been lagging behind and the process seems to be shaky at this stage. Please try to take control of the situation else I and @Keivan.f are considering another reviewer though we will not desire for that given your successful reviews for Prince William and Princess Diana's articles. Regards MSincccc (talk) 13:19, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@MSincccc - I'll have a look in over the weekend. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:55, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Tim O'Doherty This is not related to any GA. Just that I wanted to know h whether I am capable enough for receiving a barnstar or not. You seem to have received many. Regards MSincccc (talk) 07:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Glad William's article has now been passed as GA. It doesn't really matter that it takes time to complete each review as long as the job is done properly. MSincccc has already nominated Catherine's page and I will play my part in bringing it to GA status. I have two more pages on mind that I think could possibly meet the GA criteria and I hope we can wrap them all up by the end of this year or perhaps early next year. Keivan.f^Talk 20:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Keivan.f I know those two pages, Camilla and Philip. By the way, I will also be playing an equivalent role in bringing Catherine's page to GA status. Regards MSincccc (talk) 05:13, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Just giving you a heads up regarding Catherine's page because our long comments have turned the review box into a mess. I did make some changes, followed by further modifications by MSincccc and the page has now a score of 35.9% (i.e. "Violation Unlikely"); I think that's even lower than William's article. Feel free to run it again, but I think technically it no longer fails the plagiarism aspect of the GA sets of criteria. Cheers. Keivan.f^Talk 12:35, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Pretty much took care of everything listed at the GA review for Catherine's page. The only thing I was not able to act upon were the two images from the Natural History Museum. I pulled the terms and conditions page from their website. You're welcome to take a look at it. Let me know if the images can stay. Keivan.f^Talk 02:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Informal meetings

Don't know where you are located, but if you are in, or in convenient reach of, London, various Wikipedians gather from time to time at my flat in Islington or at a favoured pub in King's Cross station. If you might like to join us do email me. Tim riley talk 23:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Extremely kind of you to think of me Tim: unfortunately, I live right up in the north, and haven't ever really properly visited London itself, save for travelling through it and doing some buro stuff. But I thank you for your warm hospitality and am delighted you'd think of me as a someone good enough to socialise with. Best, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 07:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Very wise Tim. The Riley's is actually a well-known place of pilgrimage for all those who suffer from a sound liver and steady legs. It is believed by the faithful that at the solstice, in only a matter of hours, these afflictions can be cured, and one will leave with glow-in-the-dark internals and legs that—having given up their association with the body—find their own way home  :) ——Serial 18:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I suppose we'll have to invite you Ed. I'll let you know the date of the next séance. Tim riley talk 18:28, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hello Tim O’Doherty, I have seen that some of my edits have been removed because it is not cited. Please help me out with this and how do I cite sources? Danjwilkie (talk) 12:26, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

@Danjwilkie - Hi Daniel, it depends on the type of source. Which one are you citing? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:51, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

@Danjwilkie - I see you've been making some other edits to articles without citing sources, like this one. This is important to do, and not too difficult: anything you still need help with? Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 19:58, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for offering me important advice on these things. I have had made some mistakes to that extent and is very good to receive guidance from others. I need to correct those mistakes. Danjwilkie (talk) 09:35, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:Charles III task force

Template:Charles III task force has been nominated for merging with Template:WikiProject British Royalty. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Gonnym (talk) 11:23, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks and formal apology

Dear Tim O'Doherty,

Thank you for undoing my inappropriate RM closure. And I also would like to sincerely apologize to you for my actions today. I should not have written that message on GoodDay's talk page and pinged you or GoodDay. And I also apologize that you became unnecessarily involved in all of this. I genuinely hope that we can have better conversations moving forward.

Sincerely,

AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 23:35, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@AndrewPeterT - It's alright Andrew, no need to apologise. You were doing what you thought right and you should have a clear conscience. Just read up on policy a bit: WP:RMCI is a good essay. You've wronged neither me nor GoodDay, and I've always liked your conversations. I'm going to step back a bit from BritRoy titling debates; will still participate in RMs, but not in the full RfC/policy-making stuff. Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

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England in the High Middle Ages

You wanted a source for why I edited the Wikipedia entry on England during the High Middle Ages. Here it is, from Wikipedia itself. Here it is stated that the High Medieval period in England ends in 1272, not 1216; England in the Middle Ages#High Middle Ages (1066–1272) 2 Doughboy1918 (talk) 18:56, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 18:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Really?

Right after you said this? You clearly know better. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

What? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

A purple barnstar and general escalation. Needless shit stirring right after calling an editor out for stirring the pot isn't a good look. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

OK. The barnstar was meant to be "the end of that". I'm still not really sure what I've done, but happy to apologise if I've acted badly in some way. Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish - I've thought about this a bit more. I apologise. I know I've not covered myself in glory today. I'm not a bad faith actor. I'm not a shit stirrer. I try my damnest to make this place a bit better. I do what I see to be right, but I know I'm not always so. I hope you can see that. Thanks. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not saying you're a bad faith actor, but everyone needs a reminder from time to time that they may be crossing the line into needless drama. Pbp is already unhappy with the situation, and leaving a purple barnstar is just a dig that's going to escalate things further. I appreciate the work you do, and all of us can get a bit snippy at times, so steady on. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Congratulations on GA for Charles III and sorry for dropping out

I am really sorry for the mess around the GA for Charles III. I had basically passed it, got caught by life outside WP, and by the time I got back it had multiple people arguing and it was no longer a straightforward pass.

I was trying to get it passed prior to the Coronation.

Thank you for all your work on getting it up to standard and patience waiting for it to be passed.

PS Trying to get Donald Trump to good article standard is the work of a Saint. I imagine the arguments are horrendous. I get burnt when I touch the fringes of US politics. RonaldDuncan (talk) 16:50, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

@RonaldDuncan - Thanks very much Ronald. Don't worry about it, it's not your fault. I know all too well what it's like getting caught up in real life work outside Wikipedia. And thanks for the kind words on GAs. Hope to see you around. Best, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 16:52, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

"Citation needed (unless I don't like it)"

Cos, anyway, "If a topic is truly notable, then you shouldn't need to look it up in a free online crowdsourced encyclopaedia" 🤦‍♂️ 🙄 ——Serial 14:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)