Talk:1832 United States presidential election

1832 United States presidential election
288 members of the Electoral College; 145 electoral votes needed to win
Turnout	55.4% 2.2 pp
	Presidential election results map. Blue denotes states won by Jackson and Van Buren or Wilkins, light yellow denotes those won by Clay/Sergeant, teal denotes those won by Floyd/Lee, and orange denotes those won by Wirt/Ellmaker. Numbers indicate the number of electoral votes allotted to each state. Two votes were not given in Maryland.
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Colors on the inbox thingie

It says "Presidential election results map. Blue denotes states won by Jackson and Van Buren or Wilkins, dark brown denotes those won by Clay/Sergeant, green denotes those won by Floyd/Lee, and gold denotes those won by Wirt/Ellmaker. Numbers indicate the number of electoral votes allotted to each state."

There is no blue (unless I've gone color blind). The Dark brown isn't what it says either...I think something is off on the colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.101.210 (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Popular vote figures

AmericanPresident.org gives the PV figures as follows:

Jackson, 687,502
Clay, 530,189
Floyd and Wirt (combined), 33,108

Meanwhile, answers.com gives the PV figures as follows:

Jackson, 688,242
Clay, 473,462
Wirt, 101,051

Now, according to Wilkes University, the PV figures just for Pennsylvania are:

Jackson, 90,971
Wirt, 66,706

Given the detail in the Wilkes University page, I'm tempted to believe that the American President site is way off, just on the basis that it gives a total figure for Wirt that's less than the Wilkes U figure for Pennsylvania alone.

Nonetheless, you can see why I might be getting a little squeamish about the PV figures in the article. I'll report back when I've done more research. — DLJessup 00:00, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Further examination of the Wilkes University page reveals that the figures for Wirt are for Electors on the Union slate, which are committed to both Wirt and Clay. This reveals a problem endemic to PV figures of the era: oftentimes voters were voting for Electors, rather than candidates, and sometimes its hard to assign voters for a particular slate to one or another candidate. — DLJessup 00:18, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Interestingly, Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections gives the exact vote count for Pennsylvania as Wilkes University, although it assigns the entire Union count to Wirt. Now then, due to the detail and the sourcing on the Wilkes University page, I have higher confidence for its figures than for the others; I also have a lot of respect for Leip's numbers. Therefore, since they match on Pennsylvania, I'm going to put the Leip figures in for PV on the article page unless somebody can point me to a better source. — DLJessup 23:12, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Recent edits

I very much appreciate Rjensen's recent edits. Chronicler3 01:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. Even though I disagree with some of his edits, most of his edits are very helpful, either reducing POV or adding in new information.

— DLJessup (talk) 14:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Additional information

I wonder if we could embellish the narrative on this election. There were at least three very important developments in this race.

1. It was the first presidential election in which the national ticket was nominated in conventions. The Anti-Masonic, National Republican, and Democratic Parties held national conventions.

2. One of the major issues was nullification (the idea that states could 'nullify' or veto congressional legislation). Calhoun refused to run with Jackson for this reason, and South Carolina entered a brief anti-Democratic phase. Calhoun resigned as VP, the first person to do that, and became an anti-administration U.S. Senator.

3. Another major issue was the National Bank. Clay forced a vote on extending the charter of the Bank in the summer of 1832. Jackson vetoed it. Clay felt that the Bank would be critical to economic development. Jackson did not have a specific policy - Van Buren later created the independent treasury system which laid the groundwork for the banking system which is still in place. Chronicler3

you should add points 1 and 3. skip 2 because it only affeced one politician, Calhoun. Rjensen 00:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Lee

It appears that the Henry Lee referenced here as a VP candidate is linked to the wrong person. Robert E. Lee's father was long dead by the time of the 1832 election. Sorry that I do not know who this Henry Lee of Massachusetts was. Chronicler3

Here he is.[http://www.famousamericans.net/henrylee1/] Unfortunately it's copyrighted, and I don't know all the contigent guidelines about using the information. 24.125.168.51 17:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whig Party

Might want to either expand formation of Whig party or else leave out of article. Currently the Campaign section references the Whig party, but they aren't explained elsewhere on the page

I changed the reference to the Whig Party. The first candidates to run with the "Whig Party" label were in early 1834. Chronicler3 23:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colors in the infobox

Would someone please be so kind to check if the colors in the infobox and image are correct? I think they may be incorrect but I am not sure how to fix it. Wasbeer 00:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to Dcoetzee the color green represents the National Republican Party's colors. That is what makes it a bit confusing. Wasbeer 00:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Clay and Whig Party

Was not Henry Clay a founder of the Whig Party ? The Whig Party was in part founded due to Andrew Jackson's rotation of office policy that led to the spoils system. Should Clay be called a Whig in the article rather then a National Republican ? Cmguy777 (talk) 17:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Popular vote totals

In addition to needing many more inline citations, the article contradicts itself in regard to the popular vote totals. The infobox, the lede, and the article body contain a set of totals that appears to be derived from http://www.countingthevotes.com/1832/, while the section entitled "Results by State" contains a different set of totals that appears to be derived from https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1832&f=0. To make matters weirder, a 2005 discussion on this talk page referenced two additional sets of totals, each of which relied upon a source that I have not been able to verify. I don't see the CountingTheVotes.com source or the USElectionAtlas.org source as authoritative, but I can't seem to find anything better online. Does anyone have any thoughts? SunCrow (talk) 23:14, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image changes for Clay and Jackson

I think that we should change the images for Henry Clay and Andrew Jackson. The image for Clay was made 14 years prior to this election, and Jackson’s image was taken 9 years earlier. Here are my proposals for more contemporary images for both, in the form of an infobox. The Image Editor (talk) 14:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Voter Turnout in Presidential Elections". The American Presidency Project. UC Santa Barbara.

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[1] "Voter Turnout in Presidential Elections". The American Presidency Project. UC Santa Barbara.

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