Talk:1908 Summer Olympics

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On 24 April 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to 1908 Olympics. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

On 9 February 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to 1908 Olympics. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

United Kingdom not Great Britain

Under Particpating countries it should be United Kingdom and not great britain, however I have no idea how to change the name. (BaronVonchesto) 20:16 16 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.225.130 (talk)

1908 Olympics Opening Ceremonies´bloopers

In one of the notes below in the article cites I read that the flags of China and Japan were flying in the White City Stadium during the opening ceremonies. China and Japan don´t participated in the Games.--Bicko2008 (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An event in this article is a April 27 selected anniversary (may be in HTML commment)

An "olympiad" is not, technically, a series of olympic games, but rather the four year period between olympic competitions. "During the 23rd olympiad rules for the next Olympics were changed," is an example of proper usage.

More can be said about this, which we do on the page Olympiad, but basically an olympiad is a four year period between starts of olympic competitions. Hence, the summer games are always Games of the Olympiad for the olympiad that starts with the opening of those games. Aliter 16:35, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The article cited (5) indicates almost the opposite of what the article uses it to support. It indicates that no one knows exactly why the flag was not lowered, and that the quotes attributed to the bearer were probably apocryphal. Though this is an American tradition, and should be noted as such, it isn't appropriate to treat it as unambiguous fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.130.69 (talk) 21:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Alexandra of Denmark

In this article, it is mentioned that the unlucky Italian marathon runner (who was disqualified because he received assistance just before he crossedt he finish line) was awarded a gold cup by "Queen Alexandra" (of Denmark). Should this link to Alexandrine of Mecklenburg-Schwerin? Guaca 09:15, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect a confusion; Alexandrine did not become Queen Consort of Denmark until 1912, the woman is more likely to be the then British Queen Consort in 1908, Queen Alexandra (born a Princess of Denmark), Edward VII's wife.Cloptonson (talk) 15:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fifth

This article should mention that the 1906 olympics are not considered official and these olympics were considered the fourth, which explains the first line of the 1912 "V Olympiad". 134.250.72.141

I've rewritten the first paragraph which hopefuly now makes this clear. I have linked to the pages about the 1906 Games and also the Intercalated Games which hopefully makes it reasonably understandably, but it would be good to have a succient explanation somewhere of the change in status of 1906, e.g. I can't find a date for the IOC's decision anywhere in Wikipedia, I'll look into it more and find somewhere to write about it when I have time. Iancaddy 11:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey vs Ottoman empire

Shouldn't it be Ottoman Empire instead of Turkey? Turkey was founded in 1923, and Ottoman empire practically dissolved in 1920. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ombudsee (talk • contribs).

The Official Report of the Games uses "Turkey". See pages 12 and 656. -- Jonel | Speak 22:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Would you recommend that we use "Turkey" in the main article, and reverse the name change on that nation's results page after you had created it under "Turkey" in the first place? Andrwsc 00:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've generally found following the most authoritative source to be the correct course of action. And since the 1908 report was both contemporary and, well, official... I mean, I don't have huge issues either way - none of these decisions need to be final until we get closer to the deadline. -- Jonel | Speak 04:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I tend to side with the official reports when there are mismatches, so I've changed the article back to Turkey at the 1908 Summer Olympics. Andrwsc 05:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it is stupid, Turkey did not exist in 1908. If someone claimed Turkey existed in 1908, does not matter whereever it claimed, is wrong. User Andrwsc, do not be silly. If somewhere somebody has written something to do with Turkey in 1908 is wrong, please show a common sense. But again, this is wikipedia, not an ansiklopedia, try to change the history, ok i agree, some nerds, and idiots claimed Turkey attended the Olimpics in 1908 before its existance, and this is confirmed by an wikipedian idiot, a agree. so long dickweeds

Just to be clear, I didn't write the previous post! But let me explain why putting Turkey down is incorrect.

First: in the list of new countries, we read New Zealand and Turkey. Turkey was officially at the games, but New Zealand was not (it was part of "Australasia"). So there is an inconsistency since Turkey wasn't a country and New Zealand was.
Second: the article notes that "Holland" was used incorrectly in the official reports. Notice that in the list of countries, the article changes "Holland" into "the Netherlands". This is another inconsistency if you insist on keeping "Turkey" instead of the Ottoman Empire.

When you say "I tend to side with the official reports", you are implying is that the official report is right in saying that the country "Turkey" existed in 1908. It didn't (and the two are not just the same thing with a different name). Either Turkey goes or "the Netherlands" and "New Zealand" go. Best Ordtoy (talk) 06:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Contemporary, official sources use Turkey. They might be "wrong" in some sense, but it is not Wikipedia's place to say so." User:Jonel. Very well. Shall I remove New Zealand and the Netherlands, or will you? Ordtoy (talk) 06:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand and Australia sent a combined team, under the name Australasia -- a deliberate, intentional decision. The current IOC medal winner database lists the 1908 results as belonging to the Netherlands. This situation for the Netherlands should be noted, if it is not, but the same situation does not apply to Turkey. Furthermore, in the list of nations on that page, "Netherlands" and "Turkey" are listed while "Holland" and "Ottoman Empire" are not. Each of the three situations is different. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 06:43, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course they are not the same. But it is a suitable analogy. There was no country "Turkey" in 1908. Why shouldn't this be noted? Ordtoy (talk) 06:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lead too long

The lead section rambles through many topics before the first section heading occurs. It should be cleaned up. --70.48.231.63 (talk) 22:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Which Princess Mary?

I am hesitant to link the name of the Princess Mary said (Introduction section) to have instigated the routing of the Marathon under the window of the Royal Nursery at Windsor; I suspect it may have been either Princess Mary of Wales, who in 1910 became Queen Mary when husband succeeded as George V), the mother, or her daughter (then 11 years old) who was later known as The Princess Royal after 1910. Which one was it?Cloptonson (talk) 15:29, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ordering of sections

In the Events section, have changed the order to make it more logical, explaining what happened in the games first, then the controversies and added claims of historicity under controversies AlbusWulfricDumbledore (talk) 12:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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