Talk:2023 Luxembourg general election

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Parties included in the opinion polls section

La lopi, Number 57, Davide King, Nbiver, Gbuvn, Jevansen, Obi2canibe.

Which parties should be included in the opinion polls section?

It seems excessive to me to include parties of which: have no Wikipedia page (perhaps because they fail to be deemed notable enough), haven't polled at even 1% in a single poll, do not appear in any of the seat projections, and neither would any win a single seat given any of the polling numbers they have given. Therefore, I think it may be best to remove the "Democracy (Luxembourg)/(Dem.)" party and "The Conservatives (DK)". "Volt" also falls foul of the aforementioned criteria, with the exception of having a Wikipedia page. Also, like the previously two mentioned parties Volt appears to have no elected representation in Luxembourg at any level (national, local, EU level etc.). So, I think it would also be justifiable to remove them as well.

It would probably be worth someone creating a Wikipedia page for "Fokus/Focus". I myself don't know anything about them, nor am I fluent in any of Luxembourg's languages, so it would probably be easier for another editor here to find and use the sources needed to create this page. So if someone could do this, that would be great.

Your feedback on this would be much appreciated. Thanks. Helper201 (talk) 12:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any objections to their inclusion. Focus and the Conservatives have articles on other lanaguage wikis (which I have linked to). Cheers, Number 5 7 13:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reweighted votes

Since @Number 57 have reverted my edit on this, I wish to start a discussion on it. I think this article (and for that matter other Luxembourgish articles) should use the weighted voter counts when displaying party support. Not doing so is misleading to a reader, because it presents some parties as larger than others (e.g. LSAP being larger than DP), not because it had more voters supporting it, but just because relatively more of that party's voters were from constituencies with more seats, and thus more votes. I wanna hear how other users stand on this though. Gust Justice (talk) 13:24, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think using the weighted votes is misleading to the reader, as they would be expecting to see the actual votes cast. It's not like it's vastly different – no party's weighted vote share is more than 1% different to its actual vote share. Perhaps the answer is to add some text in the results section stating that the election authority also publishes a "weighted votes" figure taking into account number of candidates, and what the differences were with the actual votes. Number 5 7 13:28, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

how about the other way around and adding a section for votes by constituency Braganza (talk) 13:50, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a good way of showing it - could have votes in each constituency then a final column showing 'weighted total'. Perhaps like the below. Number 5 7 14:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thats exactly how german wikipedia does it lol Braganza (talk) 14:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would have no problem showing both vote counts. That said I would prefer if at least the order of the parties in both the table and the infobox was in the order of the weigted votes. I.e. DP ranking above LSAP. Gust Justice (talk) 15:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1, both the seats & "real" votes show DP above LSAP Braganza (talk) 18:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly disagree; the main election results table should always be ranked by votes. It will look odd if the parties are out of order, and people will be forever "correcting" it if that is implemented. Number 5 7 18:39, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

is not it quite usual for FPTP to sort the parties after the seats they won? Braganza (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have election articles for all but a small handful of countries on my watchlist, and they are always sorted by votes. Cheers, Number 5 7 19:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Results by constituency

	Constituency				Total		Weighted total
	Centre (21 seats)	East (7 seats)	North (9 seats)	South (23 seats)	Total		Weighted total
	Centre (21 seats)	East (7 seats)	North (9 seats)	South (23 seats)	Votes	%	Votes	%
Christian Social People's Party

Final vote totals

For some reason the government hasn't published an overall final result, but they have published the final results for each of the four constituencies individually here. cc Aréat. Cheers, Number 5 7 00:30, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Party	South		Centre		North		East		Total
Party	Votes	Seats	Votes	Seats	Votes	Seats	Votes	Seats	Votes	Seats
Christian Social People's Party	529283	7	376078	7	124965	4	69210	3	1099536	21
Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party	467088	6	148046	3	57693	1	39049	1	711876	11
Democratic Party	268591	4	317194	6	66110	2	51810	2	703705	14
Alternative Democratic Reform Party	199903	2	82230	1	45422	1	21404	1	348959	5
The Greens	134590	2	144834	2	25193		17282		321899	4
Pirate Party Luxembourg	131708	1	81668	1	29110	1	11071		253557	3
The Left	82914	1	49481	1	9758		5687		147840	2
Fokus	41966		34323		11858		5685		93832	0
Liberté - Fräiheet! [lb]	16736		16535		5925		3457		42653	0
Communist Party of Luxembourg	17715		5431				898		24044	0
The Conservatives	7126				1370				8496	0
Volt Luxembourg	6449						554		7003	0
Total	1904069	23	1255820	21	377404	9	226107	7	3763400	60

Valid votes	89832		64114		43913		33484		231343
Invalid votes	4747		2923		1889		1227		10786
Blank votes	3748		1578		1681		898		7905
Total votes	98327		68615		47483		35609		250034

Thanks for the total! In Luxembourg the preliminary results are called "officieux" (unofficial) which is a rather odd wording as in the rest of the french speaking world it refer to results by a non official source. The final results are called "officiels".--Aréat (talk) 00:41, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Regarding the repeated changes of the infobox (probably thanks to Gust Justice highlighting this article on the Twitter storm yesterday), the repeated changes are making it out of sync with the other Luxembourg articles and was just a mess. Please stop reverting the clunky {{Infobox election}} version back in. Cheers, Number 5 7 00:30, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]