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A fact from Aerosledge appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 February 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that an aerosan is a type of air-powered, armoured snowmobile, which was used for transport, reconnaissance, and raiding by the Red Army in the Winter War and the Second World War?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/February.

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Post-WWII models

No information on civil and post-WWII models.--Nixer 07:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MilHist Assessment

A very nice start, discussing the origins and development of the form, and even containing pictures. But, as has been mentioned above, there is no information on civil or post-WWII models. Expansion needed. LordAmeth 16:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was no consensus to move. Andrewa (talk) 17:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aerosan → Aerosani — Per correct translation (russian:аэросани is in plural) —Mothmolevna ( © ® ) 18:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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All the English links use aerosled. If the main reference does too, that would be better. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Can аэросани mean one vehicle? Or is the word аэросан found always in the plural because articles where it occurs always refer to more than one vehicle? Google search in the Roman alphabet found 5980 ghits for "aerosan" and 626 for "aerosani", so "aerosan" singular seems to be the usual English choice over "aerosani", despite what happens in Russian. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Article name

There seem to be a number of possible alternative article names, including aerosled and aerosleigh. The name should be chosen according to Wikipedia:naming conventions of course. I suggest a good read of these before any more move proposals are listed, and evidence relevant to this policy should then be presented. Andrewa (talk) 17:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can аэросани mean one vehicle? Or is the word аэросан found always in the plural because articles where it occurs always refer to more than one vehicle? - Yes, in Russian "sani" always in plural. There is no single form of word. Like "pelmeni" and "nozhnitsi"(scissors). So, correct is "aerosani" but indeed "aerosled" is better variant.Ходок (talk) 16:59, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move the article to Aerosani (is is always -i) in russian - look here. (like trousers in english - there is no trouser - there is no san). If you want move it to aerosled, but move it from Aerosan, because it is a mistake. --Simonitis (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some English language books use "aerosan" - eg [1].

Chester B. Wing,

I view with distrust any US popular publication as a source due to their tendency (particularly during ww2) to lay claim to the inventions and creations of others (particularly if they were weren't western Europeans - especially Slavs or Asians), or to claim that anything anyone else did must have been a copy of something American. A search for the name, or the company turns up a Flikr account ( see http://www.flickr.com/photos/litchard/with/2199071636/ ) with the Litchard family album which in turn suggests they were invented in the early 1920's by George Abel Litchard, and even they state that the ones from the 20's were extremely primitive making it unlikely the Soviets (who were not buying all that much from the Americans at the time) had bought plans or anything else from either him or Mr. Wing, whose own development of the concept seems to date almost exclusively from the 1940's. Does anyone have a real quotable source that is actually reliable regarding Mr. Wing or Mr. Litchard, or Mr. Sikorsky? I had a look in "Igor Sikorsky - The Russian Years and nada" though it is supposed to be the english version of "Russkie vozdusnyye bogatyri I.I. Sikorskogo" but may not contain everything from the original as the English version focussed on the aircraft.NiD.29 (talk) 05:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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