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Good articleAlex Burrows has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 2, 2010Good article nomineeListed

Birthplace

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I've never seen Burrows listed with any birthplace other than Pincourt, Quebec (e.g. on TSN, Sportsnet, CNNSI). The article seems to have listed his birthplace as Pointe-Claire since its inception, which I am taking to be an error and have changed. J21 (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I believe he was born in a Pointe-Claire hospital, but his home was in Pincourt. They are fairly close together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.121.221.12 (talk) 23:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name

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Do we have a source for Burrows' middle name? Otherwise I feel like it should be removed. Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 04:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is all that's really needed...[1], but if you Google it you'll find a ton. I fixed the hypen issue. – Nurmsook! talk... 04:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Auger section

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I'm having a little trouble figuring out what to do with the "Officials controversy" section. It does seem large enough to warrant its own subsection, but the way it was previously set up did not close the section when it went on to describe the rest of Burrows' season. I started the rest of the "Vancouver Canucks" section under a "Vancouver Canucks (cont'd)" heading, but this seems awkward and is likely not correct MoS. I don't know what else can be done though. Thoughts.. suggestions? Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About the only other thing I could suggest is that the first section be Vancouver Canucks (2005-10) followed by the Controversy section and ending with Vancouver Canucks (2010-present). Although I'm not sure if that's better or worse. I can't really find anything on the appropriate way to name sub sections, but I only did a cursory search --Mo Rock...Monstrous (talk) 16:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. I ended up doing something similar to that. Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 15:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage and proposal

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The article used to reference the following material in the article ended up as a dead link, so I'm putting the info on his marriage and proposal to his wife here until a replacement ref can be found:

In the summer of 2009, Burrows proposed to his longtime girlfriend Nancy Roy on the Grand Canal in Venice.[1] They married the following summer.[1] Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 15:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b "Alex Burrows". Vancouver Sun. 2010-04-10. Retrieved 2010-08-29. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Comments

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Saw the GA pop up, not going to review but just had a few comments:

"He is known for playing in the style of an agitator and for his ascension to the NHL from being an undrafted player in the ECHL." Is this really all that uncommon? Grsz11 16:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of the actual rarity in percentage, but I found this article in which Trevor Linden says it's "very rare", so I suppose it can be cited. –Schmloof (talk · contribs) 07:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure I understand what the problem is here. Why is rarity a criteria for inclusion? Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 21:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Brad78 (talk) 16:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead
  • Watch out for links like 2005 linking to 2005–06 NHL season. I don't particularly like them as they're akin to easter egg links, especially on non-web formats.
  • Do you think you should expand ECHL? I've had a look and realise it's official title is ECHL, though I'm not sure whether the casual reader will be helped simply by ECHL. It is linked though, so I'll leave it up to you whether to leave as is or not.
The league used to officially be the East Coast Hockey League, but because it has since expanded past the East Coast, yes, the league is officially known by the acronym. I'd prefer not to expand it. Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 05:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Junior leagues
  • "He debuted in two AHL games for Manitoba" Can you debut in two games?
Changed to "appeared" Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 05:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Vancouver
  • What's a two-way contract?
  • What's a two-way shutdown duo?
I created a footnote explaining a two-way contract, along with a reference for it, while changing "two-way shutdown duo" to "defensive forwards". Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 05:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Others
  • No disambig links
  • No dead links
  • There's a lot of dates. I'm not sure if they're all necessary. I realise they add extra information, but it does read a bit boring and sounds a bit like WP:PROSELINE to keep saying he did this on October X, then this on November Y and then this on December Z. I'll leave it up to you, but I feel removing some dates will liven the text up, especially when they are close together. Sometimes dates are joined by phrases such as "he went on" or "early in the season". I personally prefer the latter, because it's more interesting text and the dates are a little redundant with that qualifying text. The worst example is "...on January 2. Eight days later, ..., on January 10." Eight days later equals January 10. It's akin to writing the date twice.
I've removed the dates from five sentences to alleviate this. Let me know if you'd like me to remove more, although I do like having dates on some of the important facts, such as contracts. Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 05:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, it looks good. There's a couple of minor points above that could do with addressing. My only other real issue is the amount of dates. Where the dates are less prolific, the text reads better and is more engaging. I'll leave it up to you. Once these points are addressed, I reckon this should be a pass. Brad78 (talk) 16:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the review! I hope I addressed all the above issues to your liking. I really appreciate your time.. Cheers, Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 05:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work. Everything is in order now. Don't get too bogged down by the dates issue. I just found it a little bit repetitive at times. As you say, the detail is important, but at times, it did read a little proseline-esque. It's not a major issue - perhaps just give the article a read over a couple of times. Even "In January 2010," rather than "On January 2, 2010," might help if the exact date itself isn't so important. Brad78 (talk) 12:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

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Are ten edits in three days really "Excessive activity"? 174.20.231.10 (talk) 02:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Given that there are a LOT of angry Bruins fans out there, yes. Giygas on LSD (talk) 12:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

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"Later in the 2009–10 season, Burrows left during a game against the Los Angeles Kings after being hit in the throat by a Jarret Stoll slapshot. He was not injured, however, and did not miss any games thereafter." Is there a reason this deserves inclusion? Players get hurt often, but if he simply left a game, but was not injured, why is it encyclopedic? I'm assuming people simply edit this page immediately after events occur without regard for their long-term notability and, if this is the case, is there consensus in cleaning up some of the less-notable events? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimaspivak (talk • contribs) 18:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree about it not being particularly notable. I also have to wonder how one would not be injured by a slapshot to the throat. Having not seen the play in question, I can't help but think that this is another example of Burrows' penchant for diving and faking injuries which was on display so prominently during the Stanley Cup Finals. Every time a Bruin touched him it was like watching the Zapruder film.172.190.120.199 (talk) 03:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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