Talk:Alex Goldman
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Alex Goldman is not a podcast[edit]
Alex Goldman refers to two individuals. The first, who seemed to somehow gain a redirect to their podcast from their full name on Wikipedia (which is unacceptable). The other, is a professional athlete. In fact, in their respective sport they are the highest paid, and you can check an Apple podcast search on google for it. So, if you mean to tell me that the “Lionel Messi of Paintball” is irrelevant, shame on you. If you want to redirect a persons name to a podcast, we can refer this higher to get it resolved because it literally makes zero sense. Twillisjr (talk) 00:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- A couple of things. First, a friendly reminder to assume good faith. Second, what do you mean by
"refer this higher"
? Third, a quick Google search for the paintball athlete comes up with nothing. Would you please provide a direct link? He did not appear on this list of the highest-paid paintball players. Even if he did, he would need significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to be included on Wikipedia. HouseBlastertalk 00:56, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Let’s see what Google Fight says about “Alex Goldman Paintball” vs “Alex Goldman Podcast” : https://www.searchcommander.com/seo-tools/google-fight/ and you are claiming that a Google Search for “Alex Goldman Highest Paid” does not return an Apple Podcast with details about this professional athlete? Do you need a screenshot? And what I meant with referring higher was, we should have someone at a higher authority clarify that this human beings name is not a podcast for those of us who can’t seem to understand. Twillisjr (talk) 17:22, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Twillisjr, first podcasts are generally not a reliable, secondary source (there can be exceptions but we would need to see evidence of an editorial policy with fact-checking and the claim would need to be presented by the editorial voice, not in an interview).
- Second, there’s no higher authority to appeal to on content disagreements, just editors discussing to come to consensus.
- Finally, we regularly redirect people’s names to the topic they are best known for, if they are mentioned in that article but don’t qualify for an article of their own. For example, if an actor has been in one movie but does not have enough reliable, secondary source coverage for an entry, we might redirect their name to that movie. It doesn’t mean a person is a movie. Innisfree987 (talk) 17:50, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- To add on to what Innisfree987 (courtesy ping), I did not attempt to search "Alex Goldman Highest Paid". I attempted the searches "Alex Goldman" and "highest-paid paintball players". If neither of those can come up with any significant coverage found in reliable sources, then it is highly unlikely we can have an article or a disambiguation page mentioning him. Even if we did things based on what wins a Google Fights, try "Alex Goldman paintball" versus "Alex Goldman Reply All". When something is getting almost three times the google searches, it is likely to be a primary redirect. HouseBlastertalk 17:59, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Today you are right, but I am glad this argument has been made for future contributors. History will be recorded for the professional athlete in the future better than it is today in proper sources like books and articles. Unfortunately, the sport is not yet as popular in notable sources (yet). But when it is, we can change it. Twillisjr (talk) 22:52, 11 December 2022 (UTC)