Talk:Asa Akira

Regarding her birth year

Her MySpace says that she is 25 and the official webpage says that she was born on January 3, which would make the year 1985. So unless anyone objects, I will readd it accordingly. Nymf _talk/contr. 16:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

There is first-hand confirmation her birth year is actually 1985 and WikiPedia has always had it wrong at 1986 in this video from her podcast. Her birth year is definitively not 1986 and the correct year of 1985 should be reflected on WikiPedia to reflect the most true, accurate information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucky760 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Japanese descent?

Exactly how is she Japanese-American? "Between the ages of 6 and 12 she lived in Japan, where she attended American schools." Living in a country does not make anyone descent of that country. Sure, she looks asian, but is it not original research to claim it? Without any mention of her parents nationality/country, for example. 85.217.45.223 (talk) 04:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

She's described as such by AVN.[1] Morbidthoughts (talk) 05:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

From the Examiner: "Regarding your Japanese heritage, where is your family originally from?" "My mother’s side of the family is from Osaka and my father’s side is from Tokyo, but they live in Yokohama" KonigProbst (talk) 00:01, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

References

Verifiable Source?

Since when is IMDB not a reliable source for information? There are hundreds of references that point to IMDB, they and dozens of other websites all state her name as "Asa Takigami". But you'll allow "myspace" as a reliable source? Pirhounix 20:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

IMDB is editable by anyone, which inherently makes it an unreliable source. See WP:USERGENERATED for more information. Nymf _{talk to me} 07:25, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

IMDB is not editable by anyone. The main database of productions, actors, crew, and such is maintained by paid staff and any submitted information is checked by the staff before its made live on the site. The forums and discussion areas, much like this Talk page, are the only areas that are editable by anyone. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 15:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I've seen other articles using IMDB as a source. I'd need to look up the specific WP, but I believe that we are suppose to include celebrities real names. I'm thinking specifically of Natalie Portman where her birth name is used despite the common practice in media and fan sites to conceal that information. I couldn't find anything in WP:Biographies_of_living_persons to say that the birth name needed to be included. It sounded like the information just needed to be properly sourced if it were to be included. I've asked for a little outside help because I'm new here, but leaving her name out appears to be an oversight. I'm happy to hope over to Google and grab some fresh sources besides IMDB if outside editors agree that isn't enough to establish this fact. KonigProbst (talk) 23:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I found this policy Wikipedia:RSE#Use_of_electronic_or_online_sources pointing out that IMDB "should not be used as a source." Following up on my offer to Google more sources, I didn't find much of anything more reliable than a celebrity gossip site.

The Richest The most promising option Ideal.es I'm not sure what the policy is on foreign language sources. This does establish her birthday, but it's a blog on a news website. Her Official Website I don't remember what the policy is on linking to objectionable websites. I didn't find name or birthday information on there. Her Official Twitter I didn't find name or birthday information on there. And lastly her Biography on AVN No birthday info. No real name info. And it indicates she is 29 years old, not matching the 1986 date cited elsewhere.

I'm going to have to say that WP Biography of a Living person doesn't allow us to include her real name and birthday unless we can find some reliable sources.

KonigProbst (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

References

Date of birth

I've removed Akira's date of birth from the article because it was unsourced (see, WP:V). Her official twitter and website doesn't give a hint regarding her date of birth. Feel free to change, but only if you got some reliable source. See, Wikipedia reliable source examples. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 10:32, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Birth year is 1985, NOT 1986

We usually cite porn star birth dates to IAFD, but in Akira's case, IAFD is wrong. IAFD has Akira's birth date as January 3, 1986, which would make her 29, but she said in a January 3, 2015 tweet that she is 30, which means her birth year is actually 1985. You'll also notice the IAFD birth year/age discrepancy when reading interviews Akira has given, such as this one from 2014 in which she says she's 29, which would also make her real birth year 1985. I corrected her birth date and cited it to AFDB, which does have the correct one, so please stop changing it back to IAFD, which clearly has it wrong. In case you're wondering about her birth month and day, both IAFD and AFDB do have the correct one, January 3. Rebecca1990 (talk) 01:00, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Problem is you actually have a newspaper article stating her age as being 28 on April 26, 2014.[2] An article that is cited several times on her wiki page. The 1986 birth year is also on her "official" site. [3] I'm not saying you're wrong, but there's conflicting evidence to make this issue disputed enough to choose better citations than afdb or iafd. Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

The New York Post stated that she is 28 twice throughout the article and neither of those statements quoted Akira. They must have gotten that info from some other source, perhaps even this WP article (hopefully not, since that would call their reliability into question per WP:CIRCULAR), since it had 1986 as her birth year the day the NYP article was published. They could have also gotten it from IAFD or AsaAkira.com, which, as you pointed out, also has 1986 as her birth year. I think we should completely disregard AsaAkira.com and the birthday it lists. I really can't consider it a reliable source for this when right below her "birthday", it lists Tokyo as her birthplace, even though she was actually born in New York. Rebecca1990 (talk) 08:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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Category:Feminist writers

Hey Rebecca1990, Asa Akira does NOT belong in Category:Feminist writers. Nina Hartley, ok. Annie Sprinkle, mm-hmm. Susie Bright heck-yeah. Asa Akira, no.

You justified reverting my removal of Category:Feminist writers, with "There is sourced info in the article stating that she's both a writer and a feminist. However, As it states at the top of the Category:Feminist writers page “This category is for writers, the majority of whose work is centered on, or in significant relation to, the major themes of the social theories, political movements, and moral philosophies known as Feminism.” Asa Akira does not meet this criteria.Circa73 (talk) 23:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree with this criteria. One autobiography does not establish that she is a writer on feminism, which is what the category is for. Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

1. "But because she was writing abut porn, commentary on the book quickly moved into the political realm. People questioned whether she was a feminist, and what she thought about porn. “It became this whole thing bigger than me, that I didn’t expect.” Akira in fact does consider herself a feminist. In fact, “When I set out to write the first book, I wanted my core audience to be women. My goal was to connect more with women."

2. Wrote article about feminism for Playboy

But fine, whatever, we can leave that category out, but it still shouldn't have just been REMOVED, it should have been REPLACED with Category:American feminists. Rebecca1990 (talk) 03:09, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2016

Mutz12 (talk) 19:42, 25 June 2016 (UTC) no spouce

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2016

80.8.108.214 (talk) 11:28, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 12:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Importance scale

The article is currently rated as "Mid" in Wikipedia:WikiProject Pornography's importance scale. Given her current success and number of awards, shouldn't the page be considered of "High" importance ? I asked a similar question about Katsuni. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 14:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 14:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Other Media

In 2017 Asa Akira started hosting a podcast called Super Curious , this should be added to the "Other Media" subsection.

Reliable sources

Needs to be fixed:Source 4 redirects to an unrelated article

@Thomas.W: Hi- noticed you'd rolled back my edit that gave her birth name on the grounds the source was not reliable. I confess I'm somewhat confused here- the source was an existing one in the article. If it's not a reliable source, then why is it allowed in the article in the first place?

Secondly, and even more bizarrely, you've undone an edit where I fixed the same source being repeated twice under two different ref names and formats. This has nothing to do with the reason you've given for rolling the edits back simultaneously. - ක - (talk) 18:02, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and undone the edit involving the references. There's no reason to undo that at all. - ක - (talk) 18:11, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jesuschristonacamel: The birth name requires a much more solid source than the mention that she's a pornstar, so yes, a source can be reliable for one thing, but not for another, even in the same article, since personal information, such as full name/real name etc, requires very solid sourcing (see WP:BLPPRIVACY, quote: "Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object", my emphasis), not a gossip site on the web. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 18:29, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Thomas.W: That's fair enough, but I'd argue the site isn't fit for anything on wikipedia at all in that case. You have not, however, responded to the second point- the rollback of a completely unrelated edit that prevented the same source being cited two different times, creating two entries in the reflist. I didn't put the name back in- something you'll notice if you read the actual edit log- it would be useful if you looked at what you were undoing in future :) - ක - (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Asa Akira has divorced and remarried

Asa Akira has divorced Toni Ribas and is now married to Sean Moroney a jewelry Designer from New York City who apparently is CEO/President of Digital Foundry Inc (www.digitalfoundryinc.com) . I follow both her and her new husband’s accounts on Instagram and it is confirmed. Their Instagram tags are: @asahole and @digitalfoundry She has also mentioned it in several recent podcasts as well as did an interview called “Sean my boyfriend” on the pornhub podcast where you can find out a lot more about him. Just thought it was worth noting.

The marriage needs to be properly cited to reliable sources or citations to the specific Instagram posts by both accounts. Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:10, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

HopClear could be clasified as a reliable Source and is atleast more reliable than Twitter and Instagram.--217.92.58.201 (talk) 10:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hopclear looks like an unacceptable tabloid with excerpts like these, "In New York, she got into a relationship with her ex-boyfriend Sean, who once dumped her because of her small breasts. Now with new breasts in tow and a new confidence you can say she was “insatiable” to Sean. So they became an item and now they’re married, and Asa Akira is pregnant. Asa Akira is now 6 months pregnant with her first child, allegedly." There has to be better sources out there. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:20, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Asa Akira is pregnant! There is a Pornographic Video of her in which she has a large stomach and masturbates.--94.216.166.113 (talk) 13:51, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2020

change 'an Japanese' to 'a Japanese' 84.85.90.111 (talk) 16:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

I have removed "Japanese" since she was born in the U.S. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 16:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

other media

Asa was interviewed by Wrestler Chris Jericho his interview should be added. Talk is Jericho is the podcast. https://player.fm/series/talk-is-jericho-1901467/tij-ep79-adult-film-star-asa-akira 47.205.254.217 (talk) 06:19, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Self-published sources (podcasts etc.) are generally not usable for BLPs. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Article issues, classification, and External links

Greetings, This article shows up in the category "Articles with unsourced statements from April 2020", listed as "citation needed". There is also a "page needed" tag. On a book, not having the page number, effectively nulls the inline citation and Text-source integrity aspects. Someone would have to read the whole book to hopefully verify the source.

The B-class criteria #1 states; The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited., and #4, The article is reasonably well-written.

• The article already has unsourced content such as in the third and fourth paragraphs of the "Mainstream appearances" section.
• The second paragraph of the "Other media" has unsourced content after the source.
• The fifth paragraph not only has a "citation needed" tag but is outdated as 2015 has come---and gone.

The article has had "630 editors, 178 watchers, and 48,343 pageviews" in 30 days. Not even in the same universe as Christina Aguilera but very popular. The above issues can result in an article reassessment. Otr500 (talk)

External links

There are five entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.

• ELpoints #3) states: Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
• LINKFARM states: There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
• ELMIN: Minimize the number of links. --
• ELCITE: Do not use {{cite web}} or other citation templates in the External links section. Citation templates are permitted in the Further reading section.

I don't think the current number approaches link farm status but the section tends to grow-- and grow, and I don't thinks all of the links follow the External links guidelines.

A more complete rationale can be seen at Talk:Christina Aguilera#External links. -- Otr500 (talk) 06:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)