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User:Bogdangiusca made three changes recently; one is certainly a correction of my mistranslation; one I think is just a case of less colloquial English; one is somewhere between. Just trying to make sure we do the best we can on this; here's the scoop:

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  • "Deasupra Tuturor" - I had "Above All". Bogdan changed that to "Above Everyone". Yes; I mistranslated
  • "Întotdeauna pentru totdeauna" - I had "For ever and ever". Bogdan changed that to "Always for ever". I agree that is more literal, but it's very uncolloquial and, as far as I can tell, means the same. I'd rather restore this to a wording a native speaker would actually use.
Yes. I think you're right in here.
OK, I'll restore. Jmabel 07:00, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • "După Blocuri" - I had "Beyond the Projects" Bogdan changed that to "Behind the Buildings". This one is trickier. Two issues.
  1. Bogdan, am I wrong in understanding that "după can as easily mean "after" "după puţin" as "behind"? I was assuming the former meaning, but figured "beyond" would express that better in English. I haven't heard the album. Is it clearly "behind" rather than "after" in this context?
  2. I translated "blocuri" as "the projects". I know that isn't literal. Literal would be "apartment blocks" (in UK usage) or "apartment houses" (in US usage), but in the hip-hop context, I figured "the projects" was the best equivalent, because it connotes large areas of more-or-less identical government built medium- or high-rise low-income apartment buildings, exactly what I presume a group from Pantelimon would connote by "blocuri". Similarly, in another title, I translated "Cartier" as "'Hood", rather than the more literal "quarter", "neighborhood", or "district".

Bogdan: the only one of these I'd really like to revert is to translate "Blocuri" by the more evocative "Projects" rather than "Buildings". Is that OK with you? -- Jmabel

I don't know. The first thing you think when you hear the word "project" is a plan, not a building.Bogdan | Talk 09:37, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Not the first thing if you are a native English speaker and it's in a hip-hop context. "The projects" is common American English, and universal African-American English, for large-scale government-built low-income housing. The UK equivalent is "council flats". See, for example http://www.mtv.com/bands/123/1994/news_feature_010504/: "His body may have been in the projects, but his soul was in the music." In fact, see http://www.hipmama.com/node/view/197, which uses this very phrase "beyond the projects" (hadn't seen it before I wrote the article) in exactly the context I presumed. (which still leaves the "behind" vs. "after" question). -- Jmabel 07:00, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I don't know the lyrics (I don't like hip-hop), but I think that "Dupa Blocuri" would be translated the best as "Behind Projects". Joe, you really know romanian well :), as you were very right about the meaning of "Blocuri". As for "Dupa" I guess that is refering in the sense of "in the back of".MihaiC

"Dupa Blocuri" translation

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Its more like "In the Projects", cause that's what it is beyond the buildings in here. (anon 29 March 2005)

But how can dupa be "in" rather than "beyond" or some such? -- Jmabel | Talk 16:42, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
Dupa actually means "beyond." Nazism isn't cool 13:22, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
As I said. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:31, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)
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