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A fact from Babi Yar. Context appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 June 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows rare footage of buildings being destroyed by retreating Soviet forces in the main street of Nazi-occupied Kyiv?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Babi Yar in 1941

... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows long-unseen footage of buildings in central Kyiv being bombed by the Soviets, by remote control, after the Nazi occupation began? Source: https://europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/film/babi-yar-context.19560 "Some of the footage I work with has been buried in the archives for decades – nobody has ever seen it. Not even historians, specialising in the Holocaust in the USSR. One such episode is the explosions of Kreschatik in September 1941. Kiev’s central street was mined with remote controlled explosives by the NKVD (Soviet secret service) before the Red army had retreated from Kiev. The detonations of the explosives were carried out a few days after the Germans took the city."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Book of Common Prayer (1662)

Created by Coretheapple (talk). Self-nominated at 18:48, 24 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: I just noticed that Holocaust Remembrance Day is April 28, 2022. It may not be a bad idea to run this on that date. Sorry for the short notice, but it just came to my attention. https://www.ushmm.org/remember/days-of-remembrance/resources/calendar Coretheapple (talk) 16:50, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Coretheapple: Interesting article, but "bombed by remote control" suggests remotely controlled aircraft to me. We do have an article on Khreshchatyk that could be linked. Do you think you can make the hook more precise? —Kusma (talk) 10:30, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree that the word bombed, though technically correct, may be misleading. But it looks good to me, otherwise. How about:

ALT1 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows long-unseen footage of buildings in central Kyiv being destroyed by remotely detonated mines after the Nazi occupation began?

ALT1 is largely the same hook fact but without the potential aircraft implication. Radzy0 (talk) 03:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly shorter and including the actors:

ALT2 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows footage of the destruction of buildings in Nazi-occupied Kyiv by remotely detonated Soviet mines?

Can probably still be improved. —Kusma (talk) 10:05, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kusma just saw your note. How about:

ALT3 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows rare footage of buildings being destroyed by retreating Soviet forces in the main street of Nazi-occupied Kyiv?

--Coretheapple (talk) 13:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New enough, long enough, policy compliant, QPQ done. Earwig only picks up attributed quotes that are fine in the context. ALT1 and ALT3 are interesting and cited, I am happy to approve them both. (Can't approve ALT2 as I suggested it, and I do not approve ALT0 as unintentionally misleading). —Kusma (talk) 13:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
PS I suggest not to include the image, as it isn't too connected to the hook. —Kusma (talk) 13:39, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archival footage

Does anyone know where the footage of the postwar events was/is currently held? (And if it's available to the public and/or presented with English-language subtitles for more than just what was shown in the film?)

Also why did he not show any footage of the massacre itself? Was this an artistic decision or is there no extant footage?

Historian932 (talk) 10:12, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]