Talk:Barthélemy Boganda

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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 13, 2007. The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that before becoming Prime Minister of the Central African Republic, Barthélemy Boganda* was a Roman Catholic priest and a member of the French National Assembly?*
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MESAN

The following sentence needs to be written by someone with more knowledge of this nation's history than myself:

"The MESAN was founded as a genuinely democratic and nationalist party; however, it was later hijacked by Boganda's nephew, Jean-Bédel Bokassa, and converted into an instrument of repression during the existence of the "Central African Empire."" --Thomas.macmillan 02:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"territorial autonomy"

The repeated use of the phrase "territorial autonomy" is a bit awkward. That phrase is typically used (see territorial autonomy) to refer to a political status in the abstract rather than to the status of a particular region (a la "the territory" or "the commonwealth"). I believe that "autonomous territory" might be a more idiomatic term and note that it is used in the Central African Republic article. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 00:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

I'm not entirely sure, but the lead may prove to be a little bit longer than is required. In case my suspicion is right, I suggest dropping the tidbits about where he studied and how many children he had (the former is mentioned in the body of text; the latter is usually mentioned in the lead only when the children are themselves notable, and could be easily moved in the text somewhere in or after the paragraph about his marriage). Dahn (talk) 19:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the bit about where he studied and the # of children. I have now mentioned his wife's name. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 00:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow

I typed Boganda's name into the search field completely expecting a stub, or nothing...and found a featured article. What a pleasant surprise! My thanks to all the editors involved. - Banyan Tree 07:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, has anyone given any thought to requesting this go on the Main Page on the 60th anniversary of his death next month? I see 2 points for timing and maybe more for "Contributor history" and "Main page representation". - Banyan Tree 07:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

50 years, which makes it even more special. I like the idea. - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Basic addition... so tricky.

I've posted it at the pending template. If I forget to add it to Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests when it becomes eligible to be posted, please go ahead and do so. - Banyan Tree 22:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Many happy returns, Biru! Dahn (talk) 23:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both. - Biruitorul ^Talk 00:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's just about time to decide what the Main Page blurb should say, as copying the full lead from the article here would result in a massive block of text on the Main Page. See Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 2009 for a sense of the general size of TFA blurbs. I have made an initial attempt below to craft a condensed blurb hitting essential points for review and modification. Note that fair use images are not allowed on the Main Page, so the blurb will not have an image unless a free image is found before the date. Once there is a consensus here, esp from Biruitorul, it can be moved to Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. - Banyan Tree 01:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barthélemy Boganda (4 April 1910 – 29 March 1959) was the leading nationalist politician of what is now the Central African Republic. Born to subsistence farmers and adopted by Roman Catholic missionaries, in 1938 Boganda was ordained as the first Catholic priest from Oubangui-Chari in French Equatorial Africa. During World War II Boganda served in a number of missions and subsequently was persuaded by the Bishop of Bangui to enter politics. In 1946, he became the first Oubanguian elected to the French National Assembly, where he maintained a political platform against racism and the colonial regime. He then returned to Oubangui-Chari to form a grassroots movement in opposition to French colonialism. The movement led to the foundation of the Movement for the Social Evolution of Black Africa, and became popular among villagers and the working class. In 1958, after the French Fourth Republic began to consider granting independence to most of its African colonies, Boganda met with Prime Minister Charles de Gaulle to discuss terms for the independence of Oubangui-Chari. De Gaulle accepted Boganda's terms, and on 1 December, Boganda declared the establishment of the Central African Republic. He became the autonomous territory's first Prime Minister and intended to serve as the first President of the independent CAR. However, he was killed in a mysterious plane crash. Although those responsible for the crash were never identified, people have suspected the French secret service, and even Boganda's French wife, of being involved. (more….)

I made a few changes, but this looks good to me. Thank you! - Biruitorul ^Talk 02:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great! If nobody minds, I'd like to wait a bit to put in on the queue. Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests only accepts five candidates at a time, and one poor editor with a two-point suggestion is on his third attempt this month to get his two year old FA on the Main Page, and there is another two pointer for the 16th waiting on the pending template for a space to open up on the requests page. As this is a five point request, it would displace at least one request trying to get in earlier. Just to be nice, I would like to wait until March 15th or so, after the glut is finished, to add the request. It doesn't really matter if it replaces a request for a date after the 29th, as those requests can simply be added again after this article appears. - Banyan Tree 05:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They just cleared three items to put them on the calendar, so I've started the request at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests#March 29 if you want to see how it's going. - Banyan Tree 01:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad someone suggested this! I thought of doing this, but it just escaped my mind! Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 05:11, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Refs and ELs

The References and External links are doubled. Is there a reason for this? Since this is today's featured article I figure there must be but I can't fathom why. Them From Space 17:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I boldy removed it. Hope it didn't create a problem. Them From Space 17:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was duplicated by mistake at some point, or that somebody experimented. Good job spoting it & being bold! Dahn (talk) 18:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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error

Boganda leads toward this page but it should not as it is also the name of a sous-préfecture. --Grullab (talk) 17:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

FA status

Although the article is in much better shape than many FAs of its era, I think there are issues with comprehensiveness/well-researched requirements in the FA criteria. A quick search on Google Scholar revealed that there are several academic papers[1][2][3][4][5] as well as a 1995 full length biography[6] not cited at all. Currently, the article relies too much on tertiary sources IMO. (t · c) buidhe 01:46, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]