Talk:Bob Gibson/GA1

GA Review

Passed. Recon rabbit 13:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Omnis Scientia (talk · contribs) 13:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Reconrabbit (talk · contribs) 16:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm going to work on this review. Recon rabbit 16:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Reconrabbit, hello there! Thank you for taking the time to review this. As a heads up, I will be leaving notes of my own where I've applied your edits. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I've done the quick ones. I will get to the longer ones in the morning as its quite late where I live. Photos I will look into and add. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Reconrabbit, I think I've addressed everything so far, just about. Looking forward to your feedback. Omnis Scientia (talk) 06:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That all looks great. Once Internet Archive returns to full function, please add in that info that got misattributed to a different source. I know I'll be doing the same on some other articles. Recon rabbit 13:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

I have very little familiarity with baseball but found this very readable. Only a few things stand out:
- the anemic batting throughout baseball included his own team "Anemic" is an uncommon adjective to describe this. It could be justified. -- Y -- changed word; I didn't even notice that there.
- This was due to a discriminatory housing in St. Louis during his playing career Missing subject of sentence here? "A discriminatory housing" Y -- Good catch!

Manual of Style concerns

That's a lot of "See Also" links - we don't necessarily need to link every list Gibson is on. Which of these lists are the most relevant or have the strictest criteria? --- This is pretty standard for MLB "See also" lists; Actually short compared to other HOFer articles! I've removed the retired Nos. MLB list since that isn't really relevant to Gibson. Rest are related to where he is top 100 in MLB rankings.

References

Layout: Nothing unusual, style of reference layout is appropriate and readable. Though I will mention that it's probably unnecessary to provide an external link to Find a Grave per WP:FINDAGRAVE-EL. --- Only added as there is an image of Gibson's burial spot.
Copyright: There is a Tumblr blog that copied this article wholesale in 2016. I would ignore that. Some statements are very similar to on the Society for American Baseball Research page as a result of many long names of organizations and assorted phrases that would be awkward to reword ("The subject was never raised with him again", "the Board of Directors of the Baseball Assistance Team (B.A.T.), an organization that provides aid"). Also, the lengthy quotes contribute to copied %. --- Y -- Where it was a bit too similar, I tried my best to rewrite.
Indiana University had rejected him after stating their "Negro athlete quota" had already been filled. Missing reference here. Should be this? Y -- Done

Spot checking

Based on this revision:

[2] Y Checks out, and also confirms the next statement cited to [3] that I can't check due to Internet Archive being down.
7 N I don't see this article as supporting the statement he needed a doctor's permission to compete in high school sports because of a heart murmur that occurred in tandem with a rapid growth spurt. Y -- removed for now; it was mentioned in his autobiography but since IA is down, I'll have to wait.
11 Y No mention of he gave up as a traveling member due to long travels and many double-headers, instead states that he gave up due to receiving $4,000. -- Y; also removed but only because I discovered some new info here which I will be adding shortly -- Edit: added new info.
[17] Y
[21] Y
[34] Y
47 Y Mentions Primatene Mist but not a men's suit endorsement. -- Y -- removing the suit one until IA is back up. can't find anything on it outside.
[68] Y
[76] Y
[92] Y
[99] Y

Scope

Broad: The scope of his early life, career, retirement and death are all outlined.
Narrow: Detail is applied proportional to the relative coverage of events in his life, an admirable effort here.

Stability

Neutrality: Hearkening back to "Broadness" and "Prose", it's not apparent that any pro- or anti- any particular group stance is taken here that isn't conveyed through direct quotation when appropriate. Neutrality in the prose is maintained. Y
Edit warring: Nothing to note in recent history. Y

Images

Licenses: Photos used are public domain, CC BY 2.0, and CC BY-SA 3.0. Y
Relevance: The pictures are fine for what's on Commons, but why not also use a photo of him from later on that's in color like File:Bob Gibson crop.JPG, or a photo of his statue outside Busch Stadium like this one? Y -- I've added the first but the second one is not shareable, I'm afraid; a shame because its a great picture. I will see if there is one which can be uploaded.
- It has a CC-BY-SA 2.0 license, I had no problem uploading it. You can use it from File:Busch Stadium Bob Gibson statue.jpg (I added it to the section at the end but could be moved around). -- Y -- Thank you! It wouldn't upload from where I am.
Also as a note, the number 45 could be converted to SVG. Out of scope for this review though. --- Not sure how to do that, I'm afraid.

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

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