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3. Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline.
4. Articles that breach Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons.

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Reply of the "Proposed deletion"

user:Afoot post hoc proposed the deletion of this article. I list the concerns of proposed deletion and my replies below.

"1. Advertising or other spam without any relevant or encyclopedic content (but not an article about an advertising-related subject)"

There are encyclopedic contents in the article, like "He is listed in the New Taiwan Cinema directors". "He is the best director of Golden Horse Award for Best Director and Asian Film Awards because of 1985 firm Kuei-Mei, a Woman (我這樣過了一生)".

"2. Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions."

There are references [1][2] in this article. I will add more English references about Chang Yi.

"3 Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline."

Chang Yi got 2 Golden Horse Awards (Taiwan's biggest movie award) , one for Best Screenwriter in 1980, the other for Best Director in 1984. I think it meet the notability requirement. I will add more references for this.

"4. Articles that breach Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons."

I am not sure the actual meaning for this. I hope user:Afoot post hoc can provide more details for this.

Afoot post hoc sent another warning message {{uw-autobiography}} to my talking. I am not Chang Yi. This article is not my autobiography.--Wolfch (talk) 04:42, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion mentioned "PROD must only be used if no opposition to the deletion is expected". I don't think it is proper to apply to this article. As a result, I remove such tag. --Wolfch (talk) 09:56, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

COI

This dispute was managed by sockpuppets - see the SPI link. Closing per WP:NOTFORUM and to prevent further off-topic discussion

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

User:Wolfch added a lot of work to the article's subject without the help of citing reliable sources. Afoot post hoc (talk) 15:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are many data available for Chang Yi and his work[3][4][5][6][7][8].--Wolfch (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would advise you to cite these sources into the article and tell us why you added a lot of work to the article's subject without the help of citing reliable sources and even removed the template for proposed deletion when the article was still poorly cited in the first place, please? Afoot post hoc (talk) 15:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Proposed deletion (PROD) is a way to suggest an article or file for uncontroversial deletion." I think you use it in an incorrect way. If you still think this article is not OK, please apply the article to Wikipedia:Articles for_deletion, --Wolfch (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PROD:This page in a nutshell: As a shortcut to the normal deletion discussion process, an article or file can be proposed for uncontroversial deletion, but only once. If no one contests the proposed deletion within seven days, an administrator may delete the page. Should you have any issues, do not hesitate to ask the teahouse. Thank you. Afoot post hoc (talk) 16:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Afoot post hoc, Wolfch is correct to point out that any contributor can remove the PROD tag for any reason. If you still think the page ought to be deleted, you should nominate it at WP:AFD. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

3O Response: Afoot post hoc, I think you misunderstand what COI means. Per WP:COI: "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." I can't see any evidence that that applies to Wolfch. As far as I can see, he/she is an editor who created an article on an interesting topic on Chinese Wikipedia and then created one on the same topic on English Wikipedia. The links that Wolfch has provided here shows that the subject is notable and that it was entirely appropriate to remove the PROD template. It is indeed regrettable that Wolfch has not used those sources to improve the article and its sourcing, but nobody can be compelled to add refs if they don't choose to. There is always the option of improving the article yourself. Scolaire (talk) 17:02, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

According to the third opinion, I remove the connected editor template.--Wolfch (talk) 22:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This User specifically created biographic articles whose name starts with Ch, a family name in Chinese I guess. This User constantly failed to translate unidentified sources. This User may propose changes on talk pages by using the {{request edit}} template per WP:FCOI.(W) Stalking (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to recover the template this User previously rushed to remove. (W) Stalking (talk) 16:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(W) Stalking, fourth opinion: This should remain removed. Your account is only < 50 mins old and you seemingly have only edited in this space which may make me suspect you're a WP:SPA or maybe even a WP:SOCK. Ed6767 talk! 16:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

false narrative and WP:fishing. (W) Stalking (talk) 16:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(W) Stalking, WP:BASH and WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT Ed6767 talk! 16:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

m:CheckUser_policy:The tool should not be used for political control; to apply pressure on editors; or as a threat against another editor in a content dispute. There must be a valid reason to check a user. Note that alternative accounts are not forbidden, so long as they are not used in violation of the policies (for example, to double-vote or to increase the apparent support for any given position). (W) Stalking (talk) 16:29, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(W) Stalking, please add this comment at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/It's_gonna_be_awesome Ed6767 talk! 16:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.