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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by JuniperChill talk 22:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Payne performing at Soldier Field in Illinois in 2015

... that Wikipedia was criticised following the death of Liam Payne? Source: https://parade.com/news/one-direction-fans-slam-wikipedia-liam-payne-death-insensitive
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aviation Accidents in Japan Involving U.S. Military and Government Aircraft Post-World War II
- Comment: Disgusted by the lack of an ITN blurb for this, so I've spun it off from the mother article and added a lead and background section. The Official Charts Company recently cut me a cheque for a hook about his song Teardrops entering the UK chart for the first time after his death, I'll find out if it cashes on Friday.

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 255 past nominations.

Laun chba ller 11:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'm not entirely sure his death even warrants a separate article, but either way the proposed hook isn't particularly interesting when far from the only thing Wikipedia has gotten complaints over and certainly not the most egregious. You'd be better off focusing on something that led to Liam dying or maybe a chart/sales boost in memory of him (assuming that does happen). At least a QPQ has thankfully been provided and the article was expanded from a redirect earlier today. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I may put my tuppeny's worth on this one, this looks like navel gazing - choosing the attribute of the article that relates to Wikipedia itself. I'm sure there's something more interesting? WP:10YT comes to mind. People will remember Payne in 10 years time, certainly. But will they remember people being upset about an edit to Wikipedia? Are collations of anonymous tweets notable in any case? There's no way to placate everyone who reads Wikipedia. Some people will complain on Twitter that "died" is too harsh a word to say, some will say that graphic descriptions of deaths have a copycat effect. If they're upset that Payne was listed as a past member of One Direction, well that's par for the course I'm afraid, Chester Bennington is listed as a past member of Linkin Park when his contribution is obviously far more than Emily Armstrong - it's about now, not then. The cited article ends """He will always be a member of 1d," one grieving fan added" which is an understandable statement of grief, but not an argument of inaccuracy. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts exactly. We can do much better than fans getting upset over a listing. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(As it happens, I did consider driveby nominating Armstrong's article. Can't remember why I didn't.) I disagree that navel-gazing is a bad thing. People who read the front page are inherently going to be interested in the site. There hasn't been a below-median Wikipedia hook since May 2020. There are hooks in the article about "Liam's Law" and Impact X Nightline but I'll wait until the charts come out and propose several at once. Also, I suspect that hooks "on something that led to Liam dying" could be a WP:BDP minefield, so I won't propose anything along those lines.--Laun chba ller 08:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, this is at AfD anyway, so must go on hold.--Laun chba ller 21:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AFD nomination is looking like a snow merge so putting the nomination out of its misery as it seems extremely unlikely to survive its AFD. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't have to be merged

It is well done that his death has a separate article, since he is a hyper-mega global star in the music industry. On the Spanish Wikipedia, it has already been translated as well. CompitaxDDD (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]