Talk:Deusdedit of Canterbury

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Name

Does Deusdedit translate roughly as "God sent"? I was trying to place why this name sounded familiar; turns out I hadn't heard of Deusdedit before, but he did remind me of Quodvultdeus. Although Quodvultdeus was about 200 years earlier and in North Africa as opposed to England, there are similarities: Latin names referring to God, used by bishops on the fringes of Christendom. Is there anything to add on this, or am I seeing connections where there are none? Nev1 (talk) 14:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There probably COULD be, but no one's written about it yet (grins). The consensus seems to be that this Deus took his name from the recent pope, which appears likely. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology of name

Article says The name Deusdedit means "dedicated to God". Well when I learned Latin, deus was nominative case ie the subject of the sentence, so it means "god gave [him]" or something similar, despite what the source is alleged to say. – ukexpat (talk) 17:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My Latin is so rusty that I didn't dare translate it. If someone finds a different source with a different translation, I don't have an issue. THe problem is that ... the ODNB source doesn't translate his name at all, so the currently rather crappy source is the only source. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I fear the source doesn't translate it because everyone was supposed to know Latin. The name is, in fact, a sentence, with subject and verb: God has given, possibly a translation of Hebrew "Elnathan." But the first pope with this name, also known as Adeodatus ("given by God") is believed to have said upon his election, "God has given [deus dedit] us the papacy: let us enjoy it!" though this quote is more reliably attributed to Giovanni de' Medici (Leo X). Finn Froding (talk) 20:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As a non-Latin scholar I should point out that it is probably worth adding "in Latin" to the sentence "The name Deusdedit means" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.170.233 (talk) 03:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note

User talk:Ealdgyth/Archive 20 for more updates. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:34, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grave image

Just wondering what evidence there is that the unmarked grave is actually that of Deusdedit?--ukexpat (talk) 12:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the marker says that's it. They've done extensive excavations at the abbey and they know from documentary evidence where he was buried in the abbey before it fell into ruin. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:46, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah OK, I couldn't tell from the image info page that there is a marker - Deusdedit isn't mentioned there at all!--ukexpat (talk) 13:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I took the pics. I have individual shots of each marker but the location shot is more "useful" than the pic of the marker. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and nice work on the article, most interesting!--ukexpat (talk) 17:25, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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