Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2000

Two Israels

In the listing of the songs, Number 12 : Israel, must be Iceland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.110.102.224 (talk) 21:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Macedonia

Shouldnt Macedonia be listed as "FYR Macedonia" and not just Macedonia? In Eurovision its always listed as FYR Macedonia, because of the dispute with Greece... Philly boy92 (talk) 00:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

See: WP:MOSMAC2 and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Macedonia mass re-naming. -- [[ axg ⁞⁞ talk ]] 00:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

regarding the Japanese broadcast of this contest

so i've managed to find two sources regarding... well, see the title of this section.
https://www2.nhk.or.jp/archives/chronicle/pg/page010-01-01.cgi?recId=0001000000000000%40000000000000000000000031-79-6E00000000000000000000 https://www2.nhk.or.jp/archives/chronicle/pg/page010-01-01.cgi?recId=0001000000000000%40000000000000000000000032-38-0C00000000000000000000

from what i'm getting out of this is that this contest was aired twice on two different channels, all owned by NHK. each of these airings were aired at different times of day, and i've somehow found out that at least one person was credited in these two broadcasts as well. i just want to know if this is actually useful or not.
2804:54:15CF:3F01:89EE:F9C0:3795:23A (talk) 20:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

One of Wikipedia's key aspects is verifiability, and a source is better than no source. -- AxG / ✉  22:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

well, these are the only sources i have for this one so i have absolutely nothing else backing this up at the moment. 2804:54:15CF:3F01:89EE:F9C0:3795:23A (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2000/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Sims2aholic8 (talk · contribs) 22:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 18:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This should be reviewed over the next two or so days! --K. Peake 18:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Christine Marchal-Ortiz needs to be sourced as executive supervisor in the body of the article
  • Thanks for catching this! While this was covered in the "Website" field of the infobox, you're right that it should probably have also been included in prose. I've added this with additional sources to the Production section. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• The second sentence feels like a run-on; this would work better if you wrote "it was presented by" with a preceding comma, then start a new sentence at the contest being held in Sweden
• The lead is too much at four paragraphs; to fix this, make the winner sentence the last one of the second para and merge the fourth para with the current third one
• I think the 195 points sentence would work better with the points mentioned after "total yet seen in the contest"
• Last para looks good!

Location

• Pipe Globe Arena to Avicii Arena on the img text
• Second img looks good!
• First para is really well-written!
• "Stockholm's bid won" start a new sentence here to avoid a run-on

Participating countries

• Wouldn't using "the 2000 contest" instead of "the event" suit the first para?
• Not sure about the structure of the previous participations sentence; maybe it would work better to add respectively after the years then alongside at the very end
• Remove wikilink on Christina Argyri
• Pipe Stefán Hilmarsson to Sálin hans Jóns míns (band)
  • I've replaced this with an interlanguage link to the Icelandic article on the subject; I believe repiping to the band would go against WP:NOTBROKEN, so hopefully this is a suitable compromise. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Table looks good!

Qualification

• I am confused with the group of countries part; the source lists the "Big Five" out yet you have used the "Big Four" here, any reason for this please or should it be used to Big Five?
  • The "Big Four" became the "Big Five" in 2011 when Italy returned to the contest after a 13 year absence. I've now added an additional reference to cover this. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• The returning countries are not sourced to [5]
  • New ref added to cover this. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• "by the Swedish public broadcaster Sveriges Television (SVT)." → "by SVT."
• "next to the stage, and" → "next to the stage and"
• "featuring all twenty-four" → "featuring all 24" per MOS:NUM
• "of the contest, released through" → "of the contest, through" to avoid unneeded repetition of released
• "the organisers, and followed" → "the organisers and followed"

Format

Entries

• "performance, and all performers" → "performance and all performers"
• "this submission was required" start a new sentence at this point please since it is a run-on at the moment leading from the submission date into all this information
• "of the twenty-four competing" → "of the 24 competing" per MOS:NUM

Voting procedure

• What exactly does [39] source in the first sentence please?
  • The link in this ref has now been redirected to a different page. The archived version contains a section entitled "Your votes please", which is what it was meant to refer to. I've now set this ref as dead to ensure the right information is displayed when checking the ref.
• "an exception, and" → "an exception and"
• "prevents the televoting results" are you sure past tense shouldn't be used here?
  • Good catch! Now changed. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• "on 13 May" → "on 13 May 2000"

Postcards

• Really good!

Contest overview

• Img looks good!
• [9][2][30] should be in numerical order
• "of the twenty-four participating countries" → "of the 24 participating countries" per MOS:NUM
• Add a full-stop after the third-place finish mention
• "was not among of the pre-contest" → "was not among the pre-contest"
• [5][6][2][50] should be in numerical order
• [5][2] ditto
• [6][5][51] should be in numerical order

Spokespersons

• Good

Detailed voting results

• Really good!

Broadcasts

• The sentence about broadcasters sending to commentators needs to invoke a ref at the end, also what does the sending refer to if you can specify please?
  • Thanks for the neutral insight on this part. I've now expanded this section with refs and to add information around how the commentators were typically situated on-site, with commentary booths constructed for their job at the back of the venue. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Shouldn't the refs be centered in the tables?

Other awards

• Sub-section is not needed when it is only this one award

Notes

• Make this its own section since there is enough notes to go from a–l; looks good elsewhere!

References

• Copyvio score looks decent at 35.5%
• Cite SVT Nyheter as publisher instead on ref 11
• Cite eurovision.de as publisher instead on refs 12 and 19
• What exactly makes diggiloo.net a reliable source on ref 18?
• Remove or replace ref 36 per WP:DISCOGS
• WP:OVERLINK of John Kennedy O'Connor and Carlton Books on ref 42
• Remove INFE from the title of ref 43
• WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on refs 46, 47, 48 and 49
• What exactly makes runyweb.com a reliable source on ref 55?
• WP:OVERLINK of The Guardian on ref 63
• WP:OVERLINK of Timarit.is on ref 77
• Cite CNN as publisher instead on ref 113

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, been very busy so took me two days after opening this review! --K. Peake 21:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • @Kyle Peake: Thank you for the thorough review! I believe I have now covered all the points you raised above. On the two references you called out on WP:RS grounds, I have now removed these, as well as the Discogs source; in all cases I believe the information presented on the article is already sufficiently sourced without these three references. Please do let me know if there is anything else you feel requires work on this before you feel comfortable in passing as GA. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Sims2aholic8 ✓ Pass now, immaculate work here and I will review another Eurovision contest for you too!!! --K. Peake 09:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 15:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the 2000 edition of the Eurovision Song Contest was the first to be broadcast live over the internet?

• Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000 Microsoft is going for a song

• ALT1: ... that the Israeli entry at the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 was disowned by the country's national broadcaster when the performers waved Israeli and Syrian flags in a call for peace between nations? Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000 Outraged Israel disowns daring Eurovision entry
• ALT2: ... that the broadcast of the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 in the Netherlands was suspended partway through in order to provide emergency news coverage of a fireworks disaster? Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000
• ALT3: ... that the Russian delegation petitioned for the disqualification of the winning Danish entry at the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 because of the group's use of a vocoder during the performance? Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000 Stockholm 2000
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boise Pro Soccer

Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC).

• @Sims2aholic8: Per a recent rule change, nominations should have a QPQ provided at the time of the nomination, rather than the old rule where they could be given up to a week after. The nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Thank you for flagging, was not aware of the rule change; will remember this for future submissions! QPQ now done and included above. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
    • I will review this nomination given the QPQ issue has been dealt with. New enough, long enough. Hooks are cited, short enough and interesting. I would suggest amending ALT1 to specify peace between those two countries specifically. The way its worded now could imply world peace. Llewee (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)