Talk:French battleship Henri IV

Superfiring gun?

The July 8 2009 "Did you know..." section on the front page says that the Henri IV "was the first ship to mount a superfiring gun turret". There was only one turret at each end of the ship, so neither could have been superfiring. Just being mounted above the main deck doesn't qualify. Nibios (talk) 23:59, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

...two more were mounted on the shelter deck with gun shields and the last gun was mounted in a shelter deck turret superfiring over the rear main gun turret. This was the first superfiring turret in naval history and was not very successful in this case because the barrel of the 138 mm gun was too short to clear the sighting hood of the turret below. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah okay, somehow I'd missed that paragraph on first reading. Thanks for the clarification! Nibios (talk) 04:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You were probably expecting superfiring _main_ gun turrets, not secondary armament turrets, which was most of another decade in the future. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Not to nitpick, but the South Carolinas, launched just 5 years after Henri IV, had superfiring main gun turrets. Parsecboy (talk) 12:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll pick your nit; the South Carolina's launched in 1908, 9 years after Henri IV's launch in 1899. I think you were getting mixed up with her date of completion of 1903. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:French battleship Henri IV/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: This is also Sven Manguard (talk · contribs) 22:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I will be taking this one on later today, from my main account. This is also Sven Manguard 22:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Opening comments: This one is really, really straightforward. I'm not even going to drag out my GAN review template. Just a few minor issues:

I had to do a lot of copyediting on the "Construction and service" section. The following issues remain unresolved:

1. What does "attempt to force the Dardanelles" mean? Can you please reword that.

• Done.

1. Something is missing in the sentence "The ship bombard Kum Kale, on the Asiatic side of the Dardanelles in support of the French diversionary landing on 25 April 1915 and provided fire support for the troops ashore for the rest of the month." Do you mean to say that Henri IV bombarded Kum Kale? If so, what is Kum Kale? The sentence is also, I think, missing a comma after 1915 (if I'm understanding what you mean to say).

• Fixed.

1. Any word on whether the ship was rearmed before being sent to the Complementary fleet in 1916?

• My sources don't say anything about it, and I don't think that the French bothered since she was a second-line unit at best by then.

Additionally, I have the following questions:

1. Any word on what torpedo were carried by the 450 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes?

• I've added a bit on the torpedoes that were in service at the time, although I have no idea which exact one she used.

1. Regarding the source "Berthelot; Derenbourg, et al.", how many people are represented by the "et al"? If it's only two (total of three authors), I'd prefer you include all three. If it's more than two (for a total of four or more authors) it's fine as is.

• That's how it's qiven in my source, which is a translation of the original article from the 1930s. Thanks for your review.

Closing comments: Very good work. Please make sure I didn't botch anything in my copyedits. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

PROMOTED (a while ago, with my main account, forgot to note it until now) This is also Sven Manguard 21:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Preceding Henri IV ship

A French line-of-battle ship, also named Henri IV, was blown ashore off the Kacha River, in the "great storm" of November 14, 1854, during the Crimean War. Probably destroyed. See http://www.pdavis.nl/Russia2.htm. Student7 (talk) 23:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)