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I don't think this is that big of a story in terms of Gail's 32 years on the street. Can someone condense this information into about two or three sentences, and not just add information to it when a new episode airs? Mike H. That's hot 22:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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First appearance

Infobox says 15 July, article text says 15th in the into and 12th in the main body, and ITV external link at the bottom of the page says 12th. Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.57.24 (talk) 14:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC) articles written in this subject before 2010 need to be written the past tense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.157.12 (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guilty

What will happen if gail is found guilty dose that mean that she is leaving the show.--Sheep 2009 (talk) 12:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Gail the hamster - [1]
Gail better off locked away - [2]
Gail the danger to men-folk - [3]RAIN*the*ONE ^BAM 02:21, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 14:51, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gail McIntyre (Gail Platt) → Gail McIntyre – Name in brackets is not necessary and the stated name is not the most notable or a maiden name Mtaylor848 (talk) 12:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Straightforward unnecessary disambiguation. Note that the page was moved to Gail McIntyre (Coronation Street), which is a better title than before, but shouldn't've been done now. --BDD (talk) 00:59, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - unnecessary disambiguation.--Staberinde (talk) 18:38, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Gail isn't Gail Rodwell

People keep changing her name to Rodwell but her wedding to Michael never happened. If and when it does, change her name then by all means. As of the date of this post there hasn't been a wedding and there may never be one. Smurfmeister (talk) 10:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gail and Michael have since married. I fail to see why she is still named McIntyre. TazminDaytime (talk) 21:37, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article title is meant to reflect the name a character is best known as to the viewers, rather than the most recent credited name (WP:COMMONNAME), which is why these pages are not automatically moved following an on-screen wedding. However, I think she might be best known as Gail Platt. Google is usually a good way of determining these things, and Platt seems to come out on top. anemone projectors 17:08, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the name should be Gail Platt. She only went by the name McIntyre for five years, while she had the name Platt for seventeen! Connorguy99 (talk) 22:21, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"née Potter"

Fictional characters are not born. Nor do they die. Née means "born", and therefore should not be used. Fictional characters are created by writers and producers, and then they are written out. This is why the soap characters infobox does not use birth and death dates. Gail, I believe, has been credited with the names Potter, Tilsley, Platt, Hillman, McIntyre and Rodwell, so they should all be included, but if you were to watch an episode from a week ago, she'd be credited as "Gail McIntyre", not "Gail Rodwell", so "previously" is also incorrect, as technically any episode can be watched at any time, and in fiction, we always use present tense, not past tense. So it should really say "Gail Rodwell (also Potter, Tilsley [etc])". Just like EastEnders characters do (see Kathy Beale, Dot Cotton, Denise Fox or Sharon Watts for just a few examples off the top of my head). Also characters shouldn't be described as "deceased" because they're not deceased when you're watching them. Remember, articles are written from a real world perspective, where characters are created in the real world, not an "in-universe" one, where characters are born and marry before they even appear. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction might be of help. –anemone projectors– 10:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can see your argument, but we need to differentiate between married names and maiden names. I'm sure we're all aware that Gail Potter/Tilsley/Platt/Hillman/McIntyre/Rodwell is a fictional character and therefore wasn't literally "born". However, on that basis she didn't get married, have kids, get divorced etc. either - because she doesn't exist. How do we tackle that, unless we rewrite the storyline summary for Gail and every soap character along the lines of "the scriptwriters then invented a marriage between the characters of Gail and Michael". It may have some minor flaws, but "née" is our best option here. Also what about characters who actually were "born" on-screen and then go on to marry? Smurfmeister (talk) 10:19, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Characters that we see born on screen are born in the fictional universe, but in real life they are still created by writers (only example I can think of is Sarah Platt, not that I've ever edited that article or even looked at it before just now). The lead paragraph should focus on real-world events and facts. The names Gail is credited with are real-world facts, so we can list them all, but only to say they are names she's been credited with. The fact she's the daughter of Mr and Mrs Potter (or arrived as Gail Potter, or however we want to word it), then married Mr Tilsley, Mr Platt, Mr Hillman, Mr McIntyre and Mr Rodwell, are mentioned in the storyline section, as they are fictional events. So it should be "Gail Rodwell (also Platt, etc)" rather than "Gail Rodwell (née ...)" because this part is to reflect the real world, not the fictional universe. –anemone projectors– 14:15, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Gail McIntyre vs Gail Platt

What is this characters most common name applying WP:COMMONNAME? I believe it is probably Gail Platt? Here is a selection of recent articles that still to this day refer to her as Gail Platt. [4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13]... also I'm sure you have probably seen atleast one of many Gail Platt memes with millions of hits on social media? Perhaps a hits table is needed in the future to determine this?Rain the 1 17:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would support a move to Gail Platt as it is her WP:COMMONNAME. Soaper1234 - talk 18:56, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed. If sources start primarily using the current surname rather than the common name, then a new RM should be opened per WP:NAMECHANGES. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 13:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gail McIntyre → Gail Platt – The article on this TV character should be under either her current name or her common name. The current title is neither. Although not her current name, "Gail Platt" is far and away the name by which the character is best known, with news stories continuing to refer to her by that name years after she stopped actually being called it........ ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move to current name, which is Rodwell (not Platt as also proposed). Platt is perhaps more well known because of the fact the "family" name is considered Platt, although really whether this is the main/primary name is subjective. Safest bet is the latest (official) one. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move - Gail Platt is her most common used name. A Google search shows that many news sources still opt to use this name when writing about her. She was known as such for a lengthy time and some of the show's highly publicised stories.Rain the 1 16:38, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move – Gail Platt is the name Gail is associated with most; I agree with Raintheone. – DarkGlow (talk) 21:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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