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Former good article nomineeGalatasaray S.K. was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Ahmet Akçan Issue

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Ahmet Akçan never bacame the first manager of team. He was the assistant manager of Feldkamp. And yes, when FELDKAMP was sick, or when FELDKAMP was in holiday, then Ahmet Akçan was responsible for the team. This is what ASSISTANTS for. This is what ASSISTANTS do. These dont make him the interim manager.

Ahmet Akçan resigned (or fired by the club) on the same day with FELDKAMP. So he never became the first manager of team. Therefore, his name won't be in the list.

Source: http://women.soccerway.com/news/2008/April/5/feldkamp-resigns-as-galatasarays-coach/

The 73-year-old German had announced in March that he would step down at the end of the season and take up an administrative role but has now left his post prematurely along with assistant Ahmet Akcan.

Lesson to ignorants: WHAT IS AN INTERIM MANAGER?

Interim manager in soccer, is called to the caretaker person, who takeover the responsibility, after the managers contract is canceled. Assistants, may become the first manager IF THEY STAY after the first manager left.

--Icykip2005 (talk) 15:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok you can be right but why dont you insert your own reverts into the main revert because of your reverting the GS logo also keeps reverted to 120px you just dont get it dont ya if you want to edit something dont change the whole page Redman19 (talk) 18:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

flagicons in the info box

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many pages like Valencia CF has also dont flagicons there i think the info area should be flagicon free it gives a better structure Redman19 (talk) 18:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
what is the structure you are talking about?--Earthlinger (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you are putting the flagicons back in all the time i think im gonna tip an admin about it Redman19 (talk) 18:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm asking you again : What is your motivation to delete these flags everytime I add, when every other club has this?--Earthlinger (talk) 18:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm warning you last time Redman19 !!! Don't delete the flags. I'm also WARNING admins of WIKI that please check the user discussion page of Redman19. His edit background is a proof and he should receive a fine for childish behaviours in this serious platform. --Earthlinger (talk) 10:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Current squad.

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Based on what is Ricardo Oliveira already included in the squad? I am a GS-Fan myself, so I would like to know, since I haven't found anything official myself yet, which ofcourse doesn't have to mean it isn't true, but that's why I'm asking. Funny about this is that he's still in Real Zaragoza's Current squad, so I guess it's just vandalism again. UmutK (talk) 09:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And another question: I know that Baris Ozbek's and Alparslan Erdem's first nationality is probably German, but shouldn't they be listed as Turkish, cause they play with Turkish Nationality's? Otherwise this would mean that (Ricardo Oliveira included) that one of the Foreigners isn't allowed to play in the Turkish League, since we have a 6+2 rule (6 players can play ssimultaneously on the pitch and on the bench no more than 2 are allowed). UmutK (talk) 09:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bariş Özbek has declared for the German national team, and since he has not appeared for the Turkish Senior team before he turned 21 he is not eligible to play for Turkey any longer. He should have a German flag next to his name. Alparslan, on the other hand, is a Turkish U21 international and should have a Turkish flag next to his name. No one is checking whether the 6+2 rule is adhered, I think it's less important to ensure that teams don't have more than 8 foreign players and more important to ensure that players' correct first nationalities are shown (ie. nation they are eligible to represent). 76.185.128.21 (talk) 04:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I agree with what you're saying, but then shouldn't there be a list of players with dual nationality, like there is with other clubs too? Then you could list Baris as German in the squad, and as Turkish in the other list, that way people who see it, realize that he is Turkish (in Turkey). UmutK (talk) 09:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Those playes have both dual nationality
So I dont see the problem here
just leave the German flags by their names
you can add the Turkish ones as wel but dont delete the German ones
Redman19 (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't, apparently someone else did. If you're refering to the edit I did today, that was to remove C. Ronaldo from the squad. Unfortunately he isn't in it. UmutK (talk) 21:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Superleague Formula templates

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I've started a discussion about the use of the Superleague Formula templates on football club articles at Template talk:Superleague Formula following some discussion at Talk:Tottenham Hotspur F.C.. Since this article features the template, your views would be welcome. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated Vandalism

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Club's founder Ali Sami Yen's motto is insistently distorted as mentioning the Leeds fans murder incident. The article is not a forum and changing those words wouldn't bring them from the dead.

CassioLincoln (talk) 09:57, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

removed tr translation

CassioLincoln (talk) 20:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karl-Heinz Feldkamp

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Feldkamp has returned just for the team consultant position: http://www.galatasaray.org/en/kulup/haber/203.php

He is not a manager or a supervisor of Michael Skibbe.

Do not change manager info of the club.

(brief Turkish translation: Ya haberleri nerenizle okuyorsunuz! Danışman olarak geri döndü. Teknik direktörümüz hala Skibbe. Değiştirmeyin şunu.)

CassioLincoln (talk) 12:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result was move to Galatasaray S.K.. Ruslik (talk) 11:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Galatasaray A.Ş. → Galatasaray S.K. — The page was recently moved to Galatasaray A.Ş. with the rationale that, since the club became a corporation, the name has changed from "S.K." (Sports Club) to "A.Ş." (Corporated Company). However, the club's official website (http://www.galatasaray.org/) indicates otherwise, giving the club's name as "Galatasaray Spor Kulübü". Therefore, this article should be located at Galatasaray S.K. — – PeeJay 15:19, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Trophies list

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I wrote about non-official trophies of the Galatasaray football team. The informations are from the Turkish Wikipedia and the Galatasaray official homepage. - Anil Yasar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anil Yasar (talk • contribs) 22:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some records from Galas's history and former players who won national titles before coming to Galatasaray. My editing work on this article will continue.-- anil Yasar--Anil Yasar (talk) 00:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
SOMEONE HAS THE FIFA MILLENIUM CUP SPECIAL AWARD HANDED TO GALATASARAY IN 2000. IF YOU WANT A SOURCE FOR THIS: EX-CHAIRMAN MEHMET CANSUN MENTIONS THIS AWARD ON THE "YÜZ YILLIK SEVDA"-DVD (Birand, M. A., & Polat, M. M. (2006). Passion that continues for 100 years. İstanbul: D Yapım.)! SO WATCH IT BEFORE YOU EVERYTHING!--Anil Yasar (talk) 13:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another new section

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I've opened another new section, which is about important persons in Gala's history. I took this idea from the Benfica article. But as I see, someone has deleted it! Why that? --Anil Yasar (talk) 17:13, 23 December 2008

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Merge with History of Galatasaray S.K. article

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I think the two articles should be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.110.140.229 (talk) 17:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Domestic success

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Someone messed up this section

for example Galatasaray never won the Ataturk Cup :) and Galatasaray never won the Istanbul Ligi 16 times that was Fenerbahce..

they are adding Fenerbahce successes to this article to make Galatasaray look like the best team.

I have a source for all the Cups the squads have won. http://www.turkfutbolu.net/turkiyekupalari/dortbuyukkupa.html I hope someone will clean this up its really sad

Redman19 (talk) 22:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please recheck your sources (as well as your indentation). Galatasaray's success in the context presented at the introduction to the article is not limited to football within Turkey; the opening sentence refers to Galatasaray's success worldwide (where Galatasaray is unarguabley the most successful Turkish club - see the 2000 Uefa Cup, 2001 Super Cup and the 1989 Champions League seasons). For a similar introduction example please check the Wikipedia entires for Liverpool FC, Real Madrid FC, and Juventus FC. Thank you. 74.74.162.52 (talk) 07:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can not declare Galatasaray as the "most successful football club in Turkey" as Fenerbahçe has the same number of league championship titles and historically had more league championships than Galatasaray. Also Fenerbahçe won more titles during the Istanbul league period which is before 1956. "One of the most successful along with Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş" will be more accurate and less subjective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.175.9.80 (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Protecting the page against user:AeonicOmega

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who's gonna protect the page against valdals? --195.174.13.192 (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

its ok now, its accidental edit by the user:AeonicOmega, but several attacks still going by numerous users, i request for a protect.--195.174.13.192 (talk) 08:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GS logo is pixelated, Needs update! Anyone?

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GS logo seems really ugly, because of the pixelation it's also blurry. Can someone change it with a new one, I don't know how to do this but I have a link for the logo which needs to be edited: http://rlv.zcache.com/galatasaray_logo_poster-p22820112145914332239iq_400.jpg Earthlinger (talk) 12:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reduced size of the image for now. Gsmgm (talk) 12:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple problems with this article.

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This page has a lot of issues. It is messy, contains to much fancruft, and frequently strays from the subject. I made a lot of changes but they were undone, without even any comment in the edit summary. Here are the issues I have:

  1. Club officials - Far too much information that is not worthy of entry. To include the club masseurs, Press and Operations Officer, etc. reeks of fancruft.
  2. Achievements section - there is no need for images of cups, line-ups of cup-final winning teams or overviews of European competition seasons. This section should be a list of competitions the club has won, been runner-up in, or noting the furthest they have ever reached in a competition.
  3. Records section - some of this repeats information from the section above (e.g. record for number of Turkish Cup wins), there is far too much bold text and some of the English is slightly dodgy, with a hint of POV (e.g. "first and only Turkish club..." could be "only Turkish club...") The section is also completely unreferenced and contains "records" which I don't feel to be of any importance (e.g. Most Turkish league titles with Turkish managers).
  4. Players section - "Players records" should read "Player records". Goalscoring record for the Turkish national team is not relevant to an article on Galatasaray. Why the bold in the section for European goalscoring record? If players who have won international tournaments (World Cup, etc) are to be noted they should only be included if they were a Galatasaray player at the time of winning.

There's plenty more, but these are the problems I addressed in my edits. Dancarney (talk) 16:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I aimed this at User:Ozanozan, who had undone my work by posting notice of this discussion on their talk page, which they blanked rather than responding here. How odd. Dancarney (talk) 09:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Started to make some of these changes...Dancarney (talk) 13:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
...which User:Ozanozan undid without even including an edit summary. Dancarney (talk) 16:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Just for correct understanding - this article deals with the football section of Galatasaray, right? If so, anything in the lead referring to non-football champions should be moved to the corresponding section articles, e.g. Galatasaray Wheelchair Basketball Team. --Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 15:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That seems reasonable. Dancarney (talk) 15:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Galatasaray SK is a sports club not a football club. The article starts with Club information and continiues with football section.Sultaniman (talk) 08:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's true, but this article deals with the football section of the club, the other sports' sections have their own separate articles. You could create a new article for the club as a whole. Dancarney (talk) 09:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is no need for the new article. I' m a Galatasaray SK club member and a fan. The club insists that they are sports club. When you search "Galatasaray", you are directed to this article, so called football section. In Turkish wiki we built different articles for this. But in English wiki we solved this like this. Please do not change the article. Thank you. Sultaniman (talk) 05:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that I understand your point. I feel that this article should either about the whole club (and as such should give equal weighting to its different departments) or only about the football section, with a new article needed for the club as a whole. By the way nobody owns the article, so anybody is free to change it. Dancarney (talk) 09:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've looked at some other multi-sport clubs (such as Olympiacos and Panathinaikos to see how this is dealt with elsewhere. Here they have separate articles for the club as a whole and it's football division. This seems like a good idea to me. I see that UEFA list the club as "Galatasaray AŞ" on their website. Hopefully a Turkish speaker can fill in what AŞ stands for. So, I propose that Galatasaray S.K. be a page about the club as a whole, and Galatasaray A.Ş. be a page about its football division. Dancarney (talk) 08:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
SK=Spor Kulübü=Sports Club, AŞ=Inc.=incorporated. Your proposal is acceptable. Thank you.Sultaniman (talk) 14:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hang on, that's no good - analogy with Manchester United PLC being a title. It's also been rejected as seen above on this page. Maybe Galatasaray S.K. football team? Same rational as Galatasaray Men's Volleyball Team.Dancarney (talk) 14:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is also acceptable as in Turkish wiki.Sultaniman (talk) 18:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You probably want parentheses in both of them, unless either are referred to by that full name in preference in English. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 18:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here we are - Galatasaray S.K. (football team).Dancarney (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For CC-BY-SA reasons, this copy&paste fork is rather problematic. I'm unsure where you want to go with this, but spontaneously I'd say that the article about the football club should certainly live here. Amalthea 10:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to swap the history over the the other article then that would be great, thanks. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If this is the decision then I can gladly do that. However, I'd still think that the article "Galatasaray S.K." should hold information about the football club, since that's what most people are going to expect (per WP:NAME and stuff). Amalthea 12:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect most people would search for "Galatasaray". Maybe that page should redirect to the football team? What would be an alternative title for the sports club? Galatasaray S.K. (sports club) would be a bit of a tautology.Dancarney (talk) 13:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Protect the article

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as long as you leave this page unprotected, some dickhead f5 fan will keep making stupid and unreal edits. and i wanna remind you that the fenerbahce page is protected. u dont give us the right to make fun of THEM, but you give them the right to make fun of US. Fuck Wikipedia then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.168.200.60 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 13 July 2009

Thanks for that?! The method for getting a page protected is to make a request on the request for page protection page. If you look there you will see that a protection request has already been put in. Dancarney (talk) 19:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Teknik direktör is Frank Reikard... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.237.219.254 (talk) 12:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other businesses

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I think that all of Galatasaray's other businesses, like the club shop, online betting organisation, should just be in one section. Splitting it into multiple sections (some only of a single line) just makes the page messy. An ordered list of the locations of all of the club shops seems to go against WP:NOTDIR, I reckon. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 11:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

football team

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football team do not have to page more pleasing to the eye in this state amateur geliyo branches already existing link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.108.71.162 (talk) 12:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Home pag

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Football main page to page, such as the importance of Galatasaray SK lost their other branches should separate page, Would not it be a subject to redirect from there to open the mind of an amateur like Fenerbahce page

Galatasaray SK (football team) do not need to page

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Football main page to page, such as the importance of Galatasaray SK lost their other branches should separate page, Would not it be a subject to redirect from there to open the mind of an amateur like Fenerbahce page

Galatasaray SK (football team) do not need to page

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Football main page to page, such as the importance of Galatasaray SK lost their other branches should separate page, Would not it be a subject to redirect from there to open the mind of an amateur like Fenerbahce page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.242.252.218 (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete confirmation

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Should the parts without a source for 1,5 years deleted?

Should the parts without a source for 10 months deleted?Rivaner (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 9 November 2018

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The result of the move request was: not moved. consensus was not place for such changes, needs to be done en masse in a centralized location.(non-admin closure) JC7V (talk) 05:04, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

– The dots make the name incorrect as per Turkish naming rules and official club usage. Can be confirmed through official club presence online. Issue was discussed on WikiProject Football and there is no need to have the dots. Junk2711 (talk) 01:15, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 13:12, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as above - whatever naming convention is decided, it needs to be constant for all Turkish clubs. There needs to be a central discussion, not a bunch of ill thought out RMs. There is no consensus anywhere that we should not use dots, not any evidence presented that dots are not used. GiantSnowman 13:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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