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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Hackmann, Greg (October 4, 2007). "Ghost in the Shell 1.5: Human Error Processor Vol. #01". Mania.com. Demand Media. Archived from the original on October 2, 2009.
Losert, Jörg (January 24, 2010). "Ghost in the Shell 1,5: Human Error Processor". AnimePro.de (in German).
Campbell, Scott (November 19, 2009). "The Ghost in the Shell". Active Anime.
Crandol, Mike (June 18, 2003). "Ghost in the Shell 2 Man-Machine Interface (manga)". Anime News Network.
Douresseaux, Leroy (November 16, 2009). "The Ghost in the Shell: Volume 1". Comic Book Bin. Calgary: Toon Doctor.

The 2 anthology comics and the anthology novel

Ghost in the Shell: Comic Tribute (攻殻機動隊ゴースト・イン・ザ・シェルコミックトリビュート) was released by Kodansha in 2017 and mostly uses this manga´s artstyle characterizations and canon so it should be listed somewhere on this page. Ghost in the Shell: Global Neural Network was released by Kodansha in 2019. The stories within are their own thing but the second of four also used the artstyle and canon of Shirow´s manga. The four on the other hand used Arise´s setting. It´s debatable where the 2nd anthology needs to be covered but the first is clearly a case for this page.

The novel The Ghost in the Shell: Five New Short Stories (攻殻機動隊小説アンソロジー) was also released by Kodansha in 2017 to line up with the anthology manga and needs to be covered somewhere as some of the authors again referred to the source manga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1F:8704:9301:C1BB:D6ED:5ABB:A350 (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Pornographic"

The "censorship" section says GitS2 "also featured pornographic scenes". The sourcing for this claim is exceptionally poor - it's http://kukaku.free.fr/differences.shtml

The source does not look to be a reliable source - it seems to be a fan page.
the source is exceedingly vague (it says "C'est carrement moins hard" which to translate as "It's much less hard")

Even if this were a reliable source, and even if it were clear that by "less hard" they meant "less sexually explicit", this still isn't evidence for the claim that the relevant content is "pornographic".

"Sexually explicit" is not a synonym for "pornography". The pornography article explains it is "sexual subject material ... intended for sexual arousal". While there are plenty of anime/manga that are pornographic, we need evidence that this artist in this work intended for the work to be sexually arousing. From context, this is plainly not the case - the series is about what it means to be human where human and machine bodies and minds interact, blurring the lines. Sexuality is a part of "being human".

For us to support the claim that it is "pornographic" we would need to cite a reliable source (as it's controversial, it should really be several reliable sources) that clearly and explicitly say that the material is, at least in their view, "pornographic" and not just "explicit".

It's arguably a WP:BLP violation to claim (in the encyclopedia's voice) that a respected living artist is a pornographer. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 20:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]