Talk:Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia)/GA1

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Reviewer: Moswento (talk · contribs) 12:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll have a look at this one. Depending on what happens at the w/e, it may be early next week before my comments appear below. Until then, take care, Moswento ^talky 12:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

Overall, this is very very close to being promoted to GA. The prose is nice and clean, the sourcing is almost all OK, and it covers all of the main aspects of the topic. A quick GNews search didn't reveal anything else significant, although I did enjoy the last paragraph of this article. I have a few comments below, mostly about the text, one about sourcing, and once these are addressed, I'll happily promote to GA. Good work! Moswento ^talky 09:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for addressing my comments, I'm now happy that this article meets the GA criteria, and am delighted to promote it accordingly. Keep up the good work on these theme park articles! Moswento ^talky 07:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Should Goliath be italicised here, and in the title and infobox

Italics removed.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Great Gasp and Looping Starship" - I think adding the words "the rides" before this would be helpful to the reader here.

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There really should be something about the coaster's reception in the lead.

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History

Wikilink Looping Starship?

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ride experience

No problems here

Characteristics

"the height of the lift is 200 feet (61 m)" - This can be deleted as it is mentioned above

This doesn't seem to be addressed. As well as being redundant, the sentence currently doesn't make sense with this clause in. Moswento ^talky 08:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Moswento: Can you remind me about this "clause"? Also, I know it really isn't right to reference to other GA articles, but if you do take a look at many roller coaster GA's, they all have this info in the characteristic section. In my opinion, the characteristic section should describe everything about the roller coaster whether its been mentioned somewhere else in the article or not.--Dom497 (talk) 18:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not being clearer: my point was that if you do want to leave the lift height in, the sentence needs to be rephrased. Currently, the "and covers an area" doens't follow on from the "the height of the lift is 200 feet (61 m)". One solution: "The steel track of Goliath is approximately 4,480 feet (1,370 m) long and covers an area of about 8.5 acres (3.4 ha; 0.0133 sq mi). The height of the lift is 200 feet (61 m)." You might think of something more elegant. Once this is done, I will award the much-deserved green symbol of joy. Moswento ^talky 08:00, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Moswento: Done.--Dom497 (talk) 23:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"and was manufactured by" - this doesn't quite flow from the start of the sentence. "[New sentence] The ride was manufactured by" might work better.

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it would be worth mentioning (here or elsewhere) that there are "Goliath" coasters at a number of other Six Flags parks?

Added a note to the top of the article.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

The first two reviews are a bit repetitive, so I wonder if it would be good to combine them, e.g. "Joel Bullock from The Coaster Critic and Mike from NewsPlusNotes both praised the g-forces experienced while going through the helix, and the amount of airtime Goliath has. Bullock described Goliath as "not only the park’s best roller coaster, but arguably the best coaster in the South East (south of Virginia).""

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 12:22, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Further to the above, what makes NewsPlusNotes significant? Isn't it just a self-published blog?

This is a reception section and it should voice opinions of the public. Yes, NPN is a self-published blog (with a few people) but they have the amusement industry to do some pretty cool things for them (they got to go into Clermont; something that is rarely done). In the end, I think its fine for the reception section.--Dom497 (talk) 12:22, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"liked the part of the roller coaster where riders go outside of the park boundaries" - firstly, this should be mentioned above in the description of the ride. Secondly, the phrasing could be improved here. Perhaps "particularly liked the section of the coaster that takes riders outside of the park boundaries"?

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 13:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The first part of this doesn't seem to have been addressed. If the ride goes outside of the park boundaries, that needs to be mentioned either in 'Ride experience' or 'Characteristics'. Moswento ^talky 08:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 18:51, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know other coaster articles have passed without any explanation of who Mitch Hawker is or why his poll is important, but for me this is essential context. Adding a brief description of the poll's significance in a footnote would be fine.

Incidents

"Park employees began to treat the man before being taken to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead." - "before he was taken to a local hospital".

Done.--Dom497 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]