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NPOV

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"Unlike the United States where Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal stimulated the American economy, New Zealand where Mickey Savage's socialism and central planning almost eliminated unemployment overnight, or the United Kingdom where rearmament also reduced unemployment, there was no formal plan for economic recovery in Australia."

It doesn't seem objective to state as fact that these interventions were successful or to ignore the fact that there is disagreement about the matter.. Anyone who has studied this time period knows that there is quite a bit of disagreement about the effectiveness of these programs. A better way of writing this would be to offer a comparisons section to explore the differences between the policies being enacted at the time while avoiding unsupportable statements.

earlier comments

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"Unlike the United States where Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal stimulated the American economy"- This sentence makes it seem as if America quickly recovered from the depression because of the new deal. Anyone who remembers history knows that in 1937-1938 America experienced another depression and it was WWII and not new deal economics that brought America out of the depression in the 1930's.

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THIS ARTICLE, WE NEED IT FOR OUR ASSIGNMENT

Maybe if some idiot school students from Western Australia didn't keep vandalising this article, you'd be able to use it for the assignment. I wrote this article, it's my baby, but I couldn't be bothered fixing it up until the idiot vandals get lost. Oh, and Wikipedia really isn't ideal for use in school assignments; it's not reliable enough. --Humehwy 03:51, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
I just fixed it up anyway, it wasn't that hard. If the vandalism keeps up, I'll ask an administrator to block the page from further edits. --Humehwy 04:00, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Ten Pound Poms

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Just noticed a reference to Ten Pound Poms - in actual fact the ten pound fare assisted passage scheme was implemented after World War II, and Ten Pound Poms are those who immigrated in the 1950s and 1960s - this is quite a while after the depression! I'll write a Ten Pound Poms article to clarify this Triki-wiki 06:31, 16 March 2006 (UTC)Triki-wiki.[reply]

Hmmm. My grandfather, who migrated from England as a four year old in 1926, told me (before he was stricken with senile dementia) that he was sneered at as a "ten pound pom" when he was at primary school in Bankstown, New South Wales between the wars. Though I'll agree with your removal of the "ten pound pom" reference until somebody can find online evidence that assisted passage only came about after the Second World War. --Humehwy 15:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, your grandfather isn't able to be cited as a Wikipedia source, and all the other evidence I've found says that Ten Pound Poms were post WWII - there's a brief history at http://www.immi.gov.au/facts/04fifty.htm, and there are also the sources cited in the Ten Pound Poms article. Nice work on this article all the same! Triki-wiki 02:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Triki-wiki[reply]

The "ten pound Poms" thing is only peripheral to the story of the Great Depression in Australian anyway, so I'll agree with your removal of that reference. It's probably sufficient to just say that there was a very high rate of migration in the 1920s which created a building boom which turned into a bust in the Depression. --Humehwy 03:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Article Needs Lots of Work

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There are no, zero, citations to sources for the opinions expressed in the article. The article is full of conclusions and I can only assume these conclusions are based upon the personal opinion of some Wikipedian because there are no citations to any formal authorities. For example, one sentence states flatly that the Depression ended in the U.S. because the of policies of FDR. That is NOT a fact, it is an opinion. The economy might have turned around because of the high military spending of WWII. This is an issue that under debate and has been for many, many years. It is NOT the role of Wikipedians to simply decide what cause of the some is or isn't. The role of Wikipedians is give both sides and let the reader decide. May be FDR's program's had some affect and may be they didn't, but clearly it is NOT up to a simple Wikipedian to make such a decision. If so, then that Wikipedian is engaging in non-NPOV editing. --- --70114205215 03:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The last two paragraphs are so loaded that it's ridiculous. I don't think there's even any need for the last two paragraphs. Foreign reactions to the Great Depression aren't really relevant for this article, and the "legacy" talks more about World War II. Verslapper (talk) 01:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pegging??

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"The Australian pound was pegged to the pound sterling." Um, what does this actually mean? Making the article a bit clearer here might be of help.

Okay, somebody changed it to 'linked'. That provides a much for clearer view, so whoever it was, much thanks!

British immigants suspicious???

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how could such a statement be true when Australia was under the Men Money Markets policy in which W.A.S.P's (white anglo saxon prodesants) were encouraged to immigrate to australia?? It was believed that by boosting the work force numbers the economy will again raise as the demand for goods rises. this did not work as wages did not increase along with the price of goods and thus the policy was a failure, but in no way was the british immigration to Australia suspicious or were they accused of job stealing.

the defeat of the war against the germans led to this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.164.203 (talk • contribs)

1920: The calm before the storm

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This section starts off with:

The Great Depression of the 1930s had depleted Britain's savings and foreign investments, and wartime inflation had upset the United Kingdom's terms of trade. A sluggish economy in Britain naturally reduced British demand for imports from Australia throughout the 1920s

As you can see, it doesn't read very well - whatever happened in the 1930s is not going to be an influence in the previous decade. Can someone please fix this up? Thank you Nicole A. Jenkins (talk) 06:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Unemployed Australians

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I found some facts in Paul Kellys "100 years: the Australian story " but don't know how to add reference info onto page. I recommend Mr Kellys book as valuable insight into Australian history. Also he advances the most "neutral" analysis of the politics of anyone I've read.Yes. I know everyone is biased. But if you believe Mr Kelly has an agenda he's pushing, I'd disagree.Ern Malleyscrub (talk) 04:21, 4 October 2009 (UTC)Attempting to use those < ref / ref> buttons... e.g ; [1] =Is this right?![reply]

You can ref a book - have a look at template cites for more details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amckern (talk • contribs) 01:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Paul Kelly 100 Years

List of major capital works

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In America, and other Nations a lot of capital works where started, and completed to help ease the strain on un-employment.

Can we please link, or add a list of some of the larger or more important capital works projects that where done?

E.g., the Bathurst portable, and hard water dams where built, the Sydney harbour bridge was completed.

More or less, there are many articles written about capital works, and infrastructure on Wikipedia that say they where built in the depression, but this article have no links to any of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amckern (talk • contribs) 01:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"The calm before the storm"

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Yeah this has probably been discussed, this section section jumps into Britain's economy at the time. Why is Britain important? It must be stated! Also... This article seems to have been written in an essay-like format, with terms like "and Australia wasn't immune". Wolfantom (talk) 02:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Federal Government default on its debts

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The article states that "In early 1931 the Federal Government defaulted on interest payments on its bonds, forcing a reduction from 9 to 3 percent."

This line appears unsubstantiated with any evidence (as noted by the citation needed request). It is also inconsistent with the following article quoting the current Governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia that claims the Federal Government has never defaulted on its debts:

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/australia-has-never-defaulted-stevens-20100219-ok5s.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.147.16.71 (talk) 12:26, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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