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Bio significantly needs updated

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The copyright problem cited in below section is removed in the proposed version below. I am open to edits, suggestions. The information put forth below incldues citations and is an improvement to the article. The material should be completely overlooked due to an earlier error. The sections below contain proposed changes::::::::: --Ts2803 (talk) 20:26, 16 October 2014 (UTC)TS2803 [reply]

Proposed new version of article
Dr.
Harvey W. Schiller
Personal details
Born (1940-04-30) April 30, 1940 (age 84)
New York, NY
NationalityAmerican
SpouseMarcia K. Schiller
Residence(s)New York, NY
Alma materThe Citadel University
University of Michigan
Northern Michigan University
US Sports Academy

Brigadier General Harvey W. Schiller Ph.D. is Commercial Commissioner for the 35th America’s Cup [1]. Dr. Schiller also currently serves as Vice Chair of Diversified Search. [2] Other career highlights include Former Executive Director/Secretary General of the United States Olympic Committee, Former SEC (Southeastern Conference) Commissioner, Former Member NCAA Executive Committee, President of Turner Sports, Chief Executive of YankeeNets, President of the International Baseball Federation, and U.S. Air Force Brigadier General. [3] [3] [3]


Career Timeline

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Personal life

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Schiller earned his bachelor's degree from The Citadel and is a member of their Athletic Hall of Fame. He earned his master's degree and doctorate from the University of Michigan, and holds honorary doctorates from The Citadel [9], Northern Michigan University, and the US Sports Academy.[10] Schiller and his wife Marcia reside in New York City .

==References==--

  1. ^ http://www.americascup.com/en/news/111_Americas-Cup-appoints-Dr-Harvey-Schiller-as-Commercial-Commissioner.html
  2. ^ a b http://www.diversifiedsearch.com/PracticeArea/..%5CBiographies/BioTemplate.aspx?ID=14
  3. ^ a b c d e http://www.citadeldirectorsinstitute.com/panelists/harvey-w-schiller/
  4. ^ a b c d e f g http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=5373465&privcapId=42185469
  5. ^ a b c d e http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/11/Champions/Harvey-Schiller.aspx
  6. ^ http://www.deseretnews.com/article/67873/SCHILLER-LEAVES-SEC-FOR-USOC-FOR-THE-2ND-TIME-IN-AS-MANY-YEARS.html?pg=all
  7. ^ http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Dr.+Harvey+W.+Schiller+Appointed+Chairman+and+CEO+of+YankeeNets,+A...-a059448451
  8. ^ http://www.nccp.baseball.ca/eng_news_story.cfm?NewsID=1026
  9. ^ http://www.citadel.edu/root/commencement_honorarydegrees_corps2012
  10. ^ http://www.asama.org/awards-of-sport/honorary-doctorates/
Sporting positions
Preceded by President of the International Baseball Federation
2007–2009 		Succeeded by
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108.231.30.51 (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Schiller, Harvey | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = Dr. Harvey Schiller | SHORT DESCRIPTION = American sports executive | DATE OF BIRTH = | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }}

Request edit on 21 October 2014

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Simply trying to improve Wiki community, sources verify that this page is very much incomplete. An earlier user's attempt to revise was flagged for copyright infringement. I am referring to the community of admins and expert editors for assisntance in lifting this and posting and accurate article. Please see edit history, most recent edit attempt is described as "removed copyright material" please see that revision for possible reinstatement. If that too does not meet requirements for whatever reason: I have proactively included a list of sources that verify information as requested of me in talk page instructions. Reliable sources do support the proposed changes: http://www.americascup.com/en/news/111_Americas-Cup-appoints-Dr-Harvey-Schiller-as-Commercial-Commissioner.html http://www.diversifiedsearch.com/PracticeArea/..%5CBiographies/BioTemplate.aspx?ID=14 http://www.citadeldirectorsinstitute.com/panelists/harvey-w-schiller http://www.deseretnews.com/article/67873/SCHILLER-LEAVES-SEC-FOR-USOC-FOR-THE-2ND-TIME-IN-AS-MANY-YEARS.html?pg=all http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Dr.+Harvey+W.+Schiller+Appointed+Chairman+and+CEO+of+YankeeNets,+A...-a059448451 http://www.nccp.baseball.ca/eng_news_story.cfm?NewsID=1026 http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/11/Champions/Harvey-Schiller.aspx http://www.citadel.edu/root/commencement_honorarydegrees_corps2012 http://www.asama.org/awards-of-sport/honorary-doctorates 108.231.30.51 (talk) 16:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

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I have created a rewrite, please see temp page. requesting admin review to reinstate page. thank you 2602:306:CE71:E330:904C:D6B0:9B3F:E577 (talk) 21:55, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ts2803 (talk) 16:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1. Please add that Schiller is currently Commercial Commissioner of America's Cup  Done

2. Please add that Schiller is currently Vice Chair of Diversified Search Odgers Berndtson 

* http://www.citadeldirectorsinstitute.com/panelists/harvey-w-schiller/
* http://www.diversifiedsearch.com/PracticeArea/..%5CBiographies/BioTemplate.aspx?ID=14
* http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a7Ni1wu8ZcS0
* http://www.mesa-air.com/boardofdirectors/hschiller.asp

Please add some other career highlights and former positions. They are delineated below

3. Former Executive Director/Secretary General of the United States Olympic Committee

4. Former Southeastern Conference (SEC) Commissioner Former Member

5. Former member NCAA Executive Committee

6. President of Turner Sports Chief Executive of YankeeNets  Done

7. President of the International Baseball Federation  Done

8. U.S. Air Force Brigadier General

Please add to Schillers education

9. Bachelors Degree from The Citadel and honorary doctorate  Done

10. Masters and Doctorate from University of Michigan

11. Honorary Doctorate from Northern Michigan University

12. Honorary Doctorate from US Sports Academy  Done

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ts2803 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 24 October 2014‎

First, Ts2803, thank you for using the talk page and {{request edit}}, and for presenting your requests in such a clear way; that is a big help. I've taken the liberty of numbering the items to make it easier to refer to them. There's a lot of stuff here, and I can't look at all of it right away (though someone else may do so), but I'll add the first and last items on your list, 1 and 12, at once.
Some of the sources you propose may not meet our rather strict requirements for reliability, which you can read about here; the teamusa source, in particular, which looks and reads like a press handout and is from a source apparently connected with Schiller, is unlikely to be acceptable. Is there a chance you could find better sources - reports in national newspapers or in mainstream magazines (Forbes, Business Week), for example?
Some of what you ask to have added is already in the article, such as it is - numbers 6 and 7, and parts of 9 and 10, are already covered. Justlettersandnumbers ([[User

talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 20:46, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Secondary Request

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Thank you justlettersandnumbers thank you for the guidance and edits. as you advised I have provided reliable sources, including from magazines you mentioned, Forbes, Buisness Week, etc. Sports Business Daily, also a source, is the leading trade publication. Please see below


1. U.S. Air Force Brigadier General

2. Former Executive Director/Secretary General of the United States Olympic Committee

3. Please add that Schiller is currently Vice Chair of Diversified Search Odgers Berndtson

Ts2803 (talk) 13:42, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have used strikeouts to indicate sources that are not acceptable. These are sources that are merely publishing information from a database of profiles and often use standard boilerplate information. However, there is one remaining acceptable source for each item. Please use those and go ahead and add the job titles and years served, being cautious to avoid any promotion or editorialized language. CorporateM (Talk) 20:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a completely rewritten and more detailed bio to the page with new references that should be adequate. Request that editors remove previous references not used as well as the message box at the top.2601:149:8100:B951:9963:681A:552A:73A3 (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not really, I'm afraid. An article that starts "X is a prominent ..." and later mentions "... a leading provider of life and financial management products ..." is not very likely to conform to our policy on neutrality. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
so his job history doesn't qualify as 'prominent'?? and you single out one statement as 'violating neutrality', then use that as justification to delete my entire well referenced rewrite? That's uncalled for. The rewrite is clearly much more complete and better referenced than the original so just remove the words that offend you rather than just deleting an entire article inappropriately. And who deleted the infobox and picture and why?2601:149:8100:B951:9963:681A:552A:73A3 (talk) 23:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, a few things:
  • Neutrality is one of the five pillars of this project, which is an encyclopaedia and so is written in a neutral and encyclopaedic tone or style; there are plenty of places where promotional and non-neutral writing is acceptable, but this isn't one of them
  • the infobox is still there; the photo has been deleted on Commons for lack of the necessary permissions
  • if, as appears likely, you have some personal or professional connection to Schiller, you have a conflict of interest: you should refrain from editing the article, and instead request improvements or corrections here on this page, the talk-page; if you are editing as part of a paid commission or employment, you must disclose who is paying you, and on whose behalf.
Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
aside from the 2 offending words that were removed this rewrite seems pretty neutral and presents just referenced facts so there is no reason to delete it. The original infobox, which I did not add, was edited down to just name and other info such as military career was removed for no reason. I do not know the man and have never met him though I did once hear a graduation speech he gave; it is not appropriate to be making unfounded allegations like 'conflict of interest' or use that as an excuse to disallow revisions. Your job as an editor is to work constructively with posters to improve articles not get heavy handed and delete stuff you don't like, if necessary we can take this to the administrative board for review. In the meantime I request another editor be assigned to this article. Special:Contributions/2601:149:8100:B951:9963:681A:552A:73A3|2601:149:8100:B951:9963:681A:552A:73A3]] (talk) 21:36, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have attempted to clean up some of the "excessive citations", quite a few have mysteriously appeared that I did not add and strangely more reference numbers are present than references. I deleted some unnecessary ones but apparently you cant remove references by just deleting them, a wiki editor will have to do it.2601:149:8100:B951:31A0:3C34:1450:CF (talk) 15:35, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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