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Mess

This article is a total mess.

A long collection of theatre plays with no references or dates - see all the "when" tags.

I feel like putting it up for deletion.

I am not a Honor Blackman fan so I do not see why I should put the article in order.

I simply do not care enough about her.

But the article does need a lot of work - so if there are any Honor Blackman fans out there, you're needed !

Tovojolo 00:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the article is a "mess" is no reason to delete it! She clearly warrants an article, so it needs tidying not deleting. Just put a clean-up tag, and hopefully someone will eventually tidy it! --UpDown 08:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed; her role in Goldfinger alone merits an article so deleting it should be unthinkable IMO. BTW, didn't she once write a book about self-defence for women? Meltingpot (talk) 11:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article is full of tags ! Tovojolo 08:15, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see you two are talking friendly Caprisa 10:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've cleaned it all up myself.

UpDown, Tovojolo paid me a real gracious compliment - still waiting for yours

There's no such thing as too much flattery for a woman.

Caprisa 11:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I note in passing a contradiction in the article (which I did not correct since I am new here). It states: In a 1965 episode of The Avengers, titled "Too Many Christmas Trees", John Steed received his Christmas cards, one of which was from Cathy. "A card from Mrs Gale!", Steed exclaims in delight. Then, reading the inscription, he says, in a puzzled voice, "Whatever can she be doing at Fort Knox...?". It was an inside joke, as Blackman was filming Goldfinger at the time.

Its true that this Avenger episode happened, and as described here. But Goldfinger was released in 64 (as the article notes) and so it does not seem likely she could not have been filming Goldfinger in 1965 (note due to the bizare length in the time between some Avenger filming and release of that show show, she might have been filming Goldfinger when this episode was created (although I doubt it) but certainly not when it was released). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noetsi (talk • contribs) 05:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's years later, and it's still a total mess. It reads like a fanzine article written by a new writer. Surely there's source material out there to build a more encyclopedic bio. And the quote about Connery's tax status? That's suitable for a gossip rag, not Wikipedia! 24.6.156.141 (talk) 13:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Theatre

I have taken all this out of the article.

Only put it back when you can give references, dates, facts and citations.

"She starred in the West-End in Wait Until Dark in 1966 and Who Killed Santa Claus?^[when?] and then toured Australia and Canada with Move Over Mrs Markham^[when?]. She then toured England in The Gentle Hook^[when?] by Francis Durbridge, the highly successful thriller Motive^[when?] and The Deep Blue Sea^[when?]. She played the role of 'Leslie Cosbie' in a national tour of The Letter^[when?] and then travelled to Australia^[when?] for the role of 'Ruth Carson' in Tom Stoppard's Night and Day at the Festival of Western Australia.^[when?]

Returning to England ^[when?] she appeared as 'Desiree Armfeldt' (her favourite part) - in A Little Night Music both at the Northcott Theatre in Exeter and on a hughely successful national tour^[when?]. At the Yvonne Arnaud Theatre in Guildford^[when?] she played 'Millamant' in The Way of the World and then coupled the two parts of 'Lady Utterword' in Heartbreak House and 'Lady Windermere' in Lord Arthur Savile's Crime on tour for Triumph Theatre Productions^[when?]. She returned to the Yvonne Arnaud Theatre for the title role of Rose which she then took on tour^[when?].

She spent a year ^[when?] at the Apollo Victoria Theatre as Von Trapp's first love 'Elsa Schraeder' in The Sound of Music and then moved into panto ^[when?] as the wicked 'Evil Vanity' in Mother Goose at the Wimbledon Theatre^[when?]. She continued the wickedness as 'Queen Rat' in Dick Whittington at the Richmond Theatre ^[when?]. Again at the Yvonne Arnaud Theatre she played the lead 'Elizabeth Harris' in Foxtrot^[when?] followed by a tour^[when?].

She played 'Mother Miriam Ruth' in Agnes of God at the Greenwich Theatre ^[when?]. She then went on to the Palace Theatre to play 'Peggy Porterfield' in the hit musical On Your Toes^[when?].

She played another 'Mother Superior'^[when?] in the musical Nunsense, then went on a short tour of Canada ^[when?], giving her 'Wicked Stepmother' in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs which she had played in Plymouth and Aberdeen the previous Christmas^[when?].

She returned ^[when?] to launch her first highly acclaimed one-woman show The Life and Times of Yvette Guilbert which toured Britain and culminated in a sell-out season at the Edinburgh Festival^[when?].

She recently ^[when?] enjoyed a season at the Haymarket Theatre playing in a production of Old World followed by the film To Walk with Lions playing the role of 'Joy Adamson'^[when?]. Continuing with her Theatre work she played 'Amanda' in The Glass Menagerie for York Theatre Royal and the role of 'Madame Alexandra' in Mademoiselle Columbe with Birmingham Repertory Co^[when?].

Other recent work^[when?] includes a season for Cameron Mackintosh playing ‘Mrs. Higgins’ in the National tour of My Fair Lady, the national tour of The Kingfisher.^[when?]

Blackman also has 3 solo shows to her credit. Yvette, Dishonorable Ladies, Wayward Women^[when?]

Caprisa 10:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Octopussy

Correction, Maud Adams on "Octopussy was about 37-38 when she appeared on it.

Erm, yes, and Honor Blackman was 36 during Goldfinger, which would make Maud older than Honor. (Sorry if you are actually agreeing with me, but it sounds like you are disputing the edits I recently made to the article) Cyclone49 14:10, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't forget Halle Berry also turned 36 during filming of "Die Another Day".--Fightingirish 19:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correction Maud Adams was in fact born in 1945, she is currently 61 born 02/12/1945 making her younger than Honor Blackman

Can i try to sort this out please? I think what cyclone49 is saying is that Maud Adams at 37-38 was the oldest woman to appear in a Bond film, as a 'Bond Girl', at the time when she appeared on the film. He is not saying that Maud Adams is older than Honor Blackman which is clearly not the case. 82.40.194.148

Goldfinger (film) was filmed (according to IMDb) in the first half of 1964, Blackman turned 39 that August. Octopussy (film) was filmed between August '82 and January '83, Maud Adams turned 38 in February of the latter year. So you can easily work out who was the oldest Bond girl. The honor goes to Honor. Crisso (talk) 12:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Real Name?

I've been trying to find some information about Honors actual DOB, so I looked it up on the BMD's. It's not there! I tried both dates, and both of them came up with nothing.

Are we sure that Honor Blackman is her real name, and that she was actually born in the UK? Paul Norfolk Dumpling 10:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found her on the BMD: She was definitely born Honor Blackman and definitely in 1925. Crisso (talk) 03:17, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth

The IMDB claims 12 December 1927. This is inconsistent with the article. --24.199.89.159 03:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article also claimed she was 37 when she filmed Goldfinger, which would be consistent with the IMDB birthdate. Honor herself said in an interview with The Sunday Mirror that she was 77 when she joined Coronation Street in 2004, also consistent with a 1927 birthdate. If no one objects I'm going to change it. Smurfmeister 12:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Her birthdate has been confirmed as August 22, 1925- see here. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 00:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Goldfinger was filmed between January 20 and June 21, 1964[1], which would make age 37 inconsistent with either date of birth (36 if December 12, 1927; 38 if August 22, 1925). --Anshelm '77 (talk) 14:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are even more possibilities, the Avengers Website says her birthdate is between 22 August 1926 and 12 December 1927. Maybe somebody should write to her official website and try to get an answer there. --83.160.198.125 (talk) 00:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No need for that as the Birth Index proves she was born in 1925. And the fact that her birth was registered in the 3rd quarter would indicate the 22nd August date is correct. Crisso (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Blackman died on 6 April 2020, aged 94 from natural causes 92.21.88.18 (talk) 18:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Honor Blackman passed of natural causes on the 5. of april 2020 at the age of 94 in her home in Lewes, Sussex. 130.225.99.121 (talk) 18:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Already done – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

I don't think the lead photograph is right for this article.
Her face is very difficult to pick out, being in shadow; even when the image is enlarged.
I get the impression this picture has only been used because it is copyright-free. The image from the 2000s is better, even if it shows her much later in life. It's still not perfect, but at least you can see her relatively easily.

What do other editors think?

RASAM (talk) 21:55, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the 1971 image doesn't work at all well in the infobox and you can barely see her face. I've put back the 2000 photo which is more suitable for an infobox image.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Place of birth

The BBC here says she was "Born in Plaistow in East London in 1925.." The relevant birth registration record at FreeBMD is this one which gives the district as West Ham. Of the existing sources, one no longer works, the Coventry Telegraph here also says "Plaistow in East London", and the NYT just says "London". The ODNB however says: "200 Cumberland Road, Canning Town, London". So I suppose it just depends on where you place Cumberland Road - Plaistow or Canning Town. No 200 does look a bit nearer to Canning Town. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]