Talk:Jacob Frey

Picture and Mayoral election results?

It seems like a better picture could be sourced for the future Mayor of Minneapolis.

Also, perhaps the career section could include the Rank round results from his successful Mayoral win? Link to data: http://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results/2017/2017-mayor-tabulation#about

Wikispherion (talk) 22:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Personal life

Don't know the dates, but Frey was previously married. Here is a story on his first wife where he is mentioned: http://www.startribune.com/woman-has-eyes-on-beijing-berth/17928379/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jumbanho (talk • contribs) 20:49, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Why no more info on his ex-wife? When did they divorce and why? Why did he move to MN? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C46:4500:416:41C5:E1CD:2EA5:B215 (talk) 06:11, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Poorly written

The cites on this page do not support a number of the contentions. As I stated before this article does not read objectively, it reads almost as a campaign flyer. Antidoaks (talk) 01:34, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Struggle Sessions

I'm a foreigner who is only just starting to look into this civil insurrection in the United States (I live in a dorm and do not have internet in my room only in the main lobby). But I became fascinated as I have seen this before in my old country my family fled from. I watched closey with the Frey matter over last few days, and saw him called to a Struggle Session by an angry mob. I do not think this article even attempts to explain it correctly.

On June 6, 2020, a march was held in Minneapolis, pushing for the abolishment of the Minneapolis Police Department. With thousands in attendance, protesters asked the mayor if he would commit to abolishing the Minneapolis Police Department, to which he answered no. Frey was met with chants of disapproval as he left following his answer.[43][44]

He was demanded to attend a Struggle Session, and forbidden from having anyone but him come, no security, no staff, just him on his own unarmed. On attending he was interrogated by the angry woman leading the mob, and she demanded he answer with a yes or no whether he is willing to defund and close the police, because the angry mob doesn't want police anymore, ever. He replied that he cannot fire the entire police force. At which point the Struggle Session turned into a Game of Thrones scene with a walk of shame.

To me, as a non-American, this was the most surreal thing I have seen since I left China as a boy. I saw politicians face Struggle Sessions by Communist Party commissars to face mob shaming for whatever they did. It is exactly what I saw here, in a country that is meant to be a democratic country. It was the most shocking thing I have seen outside of China. And when the angry mob forced the police chief to lay down on the ground prone grovelling on his stomach, and he complied, disgracing himself in front of the entire world they shouted "That's not enough, but it's a start."

This is terrifying. We are watching things that were horrors my country endured (and still does, just less publicly) and which had gripped 1/3rd of the world for a century causing the greatest loss of human life unfold in countries that were meant to be free. How on earth does those two sentences convey what went on? I mean, it is clear the article is probably managed by a PR firm on his behalf not wanting to shame him more than the angry mob did. But surely even to a Western audience this must look like Game of Thrones? I have seen so many Struggle Sessions held that because it isn't communists in my old country looks more like religious zealots from Game of Thrones, with the Grand Sparrow always being a militant angry woman leading the mob to violence under the guise of wanting to ban policing of the people. The truly scary part is they think this is good. They want lawlessness and gangs patrolling the street instead of police. Like your country did maybe in the stone or bronze age. Like we have to reinvent the wheel every few generations to appease people who do not understand how things work.

This scared me as I remember seeing this happen at home, but at least under crazed Marxist revolutionaries it made sense, they didn't ask for crazy things like no more police and open lawlessness. How on earth can those two sentences possibly convey this event in an honest manner? 121.210.33.50 (talk) 03:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Re:"2020 Black Lives Matter protests" Section:

I have to echo, to a degree, the above entry titled "Struggle Sections" which refers to the "2020 Black Lives Matter protests" section. The description of Frey's encounter with an angry mob because of his opposition to defunding the police is so inadequate that it is almost inaccurate. "Chants of Disapproval" is so euphemistic that it fails to paint a picture of what actually happened as was widely seen in the video of the event. If there is a hesitancy to use adjectives or characterizations, then simply go with the specifics. That's always the best and most neutral way to deal with things. First, some of the information under "Struggle Sections" describing the circumstances of the encounter, could be included. Then, at the very least, the article should include not "chants of disapproval" but those things that were specifically chanted: "Go home Jacob" and especially, the repeated shouts of "shame". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.96.122 (talk) (UTC)

In the end of the "2020 Black Lives Matter protests" section, the sentence saying he answered "no" needs to be corrected to match the referenced sources already included in the article. He stated he does not support full abolition, meaning he did not answer "no" regarding their question on defunding. Additional video Source: — Preceding unsigned comment added by TBSTTBST (talk • contribs) 05:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

References

@TBSTTBST: I checked out the Star Tribune and Mediaite sources for this statement. They support the current wording, that he does not support defunding the police. From the opening of the Star Tribune article: Protesters peacefully took to the streets in Minneapolis on Saturday in a plea to defund the Minneapolis Police Department — a demand that Mayor Jacob Frey told them he could not support. Also, Youtube is generally not considered a reliable source. If there are reliable sources contradicting the sources currently in the article, that would be worth taking a look at. Airplaneman (talk) ✈ 17:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)