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An edit war has apparently started regarding the use of a slogan by the channel. I would like to solve it here in a friendly way before it goes farther.

The slogan, "Live--Local--Late Breaking," is used in several self-advertising commercials on and by KCAL9 as well as other places in live or self-created programming. It is also said by David Jackson in the commercial involving several reporters telling certain lines about KCAL9 accompanied by video of certain Los Angeles scenes. Because of this reason, it is quite reasonable and senseable to say that this is the slogan for KCAL9 because of its repetition, sense, and the lack of a competing one. For this reason, I feel this is correct and feel that no slogan is an incorrect understatement. --Lan56 01:01, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

I have edited the web address because of frequent advertisments saying "Kcal9.com is always on"

Apparently I misunderstood. It took me to cbs2.com

KHJ-TV

KHJ-TV is now the call-sign of the NBC Affiliate for Pago Pago,, American Samoa. I would like to be able to start that new station's article, but i cannot, becuase it currently redirects here. Now, i'd normally just edit the file [[KHJ-TV]], but i'm concerned it might cause an edit/revert war, or break links with other stations/articles.

my source is KPUA, AM 670, Hilo's website, here.

I have changed the page, but added a link to KCAL-TV in case people are confused or links are broken.

Raccoon Fox 01:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of newscast schedules?

To all editors, please see the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Newscast_schedules.2C_redux, where the issue of removing locally originated programming schedules is discussed. Calwatch 05:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of the bomb threat incident

I am not sure how or if this should fit in the main article.

I recall that in the mid-to-late '90s, KCAL made the news itself when a man parked a moving van next to the KCAL station and claimed it contained explosives. For the most part of the day, employees at KCAL evacuated the building and managed to stay on the air covering the siege by moving to another facility. Until those facilities were up an running the helicopter coverage was the only signal emminating from the station (according to the reporter).--Kenn Caesius 00:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stripped of License

WOR-TV and KHJ-TV were not stripped of their licenses, they were allowed to operate conditionally until RKO found a buyer for the two stations, whereas WNAC I believe was physically taken off-the-air. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.142.215 (talk • contribs)

Read the article (or articles, in the case of WWOR-TV and WHDH-TV, or RKO General) before making such a ill-informed assumption. Rollosmokes (talk) 05:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material

Hello, Please do not add unreferenced or improperly referenced names as entries to the list of former employees in the article. Not including this type of material in articles abides by current consensus and is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:

WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced.
WP:NLIST tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article.
Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). thanks Deconstructhis (talk) 13:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Staff listing

General listing of TV Station staff including news staff should not just list all staff as similar to former staff (quoting Deconstructhis above):

"WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
"As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced."
"WP:NLIST tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article."

In this case they need to mention outside of the routine staff listing at the station's website.Spshu (talk) 12:51, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is about former staff. Information is sourced and does not volate BLP as they are stated on the employer's site. Other articles have this information - therefore I would prefer to wait until there is a project wide consensus on news person names. Calwatch (talk) 18:31, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, I brought out what was relevant to current staff if you bothered to read. And has nothing to do with BLP if you bother to read. What other have or don't have isn't releavant. This is a WP standard. Spshu (talk) 18:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a previous discussion about on air staff lists. Based on the topic name including redux, this isn't the first time this has come up. Spshu (talk) 18:45, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your insult is not helpful. I'm going to request a second opinion. Calwatch (talk) 06:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, the thing about staff listings is that if you don't already know who the people in question are, then the names don't mean anything — "Ron Jones is the 6 p.m. news anchor on this station that's 2,000 miles away from me...but who is Ron Jones, and why should I care?" — and if you do already know who they are, then you don't need them listed here because you already know who they are. Secondly, a primary source such as the station's own website is not a valid indication of notability. For those reasons, the rule was long ago established that while a television station's article may list notable past or present staff (i.e. those who already have their own separate articles to link to), it may not contain a complete comprehensive list of all of the station's past or present staff. If other stations' articles are doing it, then it needs to be removed from those articles — because the information doesn't serve any useful or encyclopedic purpose. Bearcat (talk) 06:27, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Newscast schedule

Weekdays

KCAL 9 News at Noon – 12:00-1:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 4 – 4:00-5:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 8 – 8:00-9:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 9 – 9:00-10:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 10 – 10:00-10:45 p.m.

Saturdays

KCAL 9 News Saturday Morning – 7:00-9:00 a.m.
KCAL 9 News at 8 – 8:00-9:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 9 – 9:00-10:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 10 – 10:00-10:30 p.m.

Sundays

KCAL 9 News Sunday Morning – 6:00-8:00 a.m.
KCAL 9 News at 8 – 8:00-9:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 9 – 9:00-10:00 p.m.
KCAL 9 News at 10 – 10:00-10:30 p.m.