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The Kalahari lion: Bridge between Transvaal and Katanga lions?

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The map provided by Haas et al. (2005),[1] showing the ranges of lions suggests that lions in the Kalahari xeric savanna may be both Panthera leo krugeri and Panthera leo bleyenberghi. Also, they have physical characteristics, like being lighter than lions in Mesic habitats, or taller at the shoulder than them, given by Roderigues (1997),[2] and they used to be seen as a subspecies of their own, with the taxonomic name "Panthera leo vernayi."[3] For these reasons, I think that it should be an article, rather than a redirect to another article. Leo1pard (talk) 13:16, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. As interesting as it is, I think you can make an article about that. But did any of them mention about "Panthera leo vernayi" being a distinct subspecies from Transvaal and Katanga specimen?--FierceJake754 (talk) 16:21, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Heptner and Sludskii (1972) mentioned that it used to be recognized that African lions were divided into different forms, such as the Transvaal lion (Panthera leo krugeri), Katanga lion (Panthera leo bleyenberghi) and the Kalahari lion (Panthera leo vernayi), and the map provided by Haas et al. (2005), besides the locations for the 3 'types' provided by Heptner and Sludskii (1972) does not make it unanimous that the Kalahari lion was of the Transvaal subspecies. Leo1pard (talk) 16:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Haas, S.K.; Hayssen, V.; Krausman, P.R. (2005). "Panthera leo" (PDF). Mammalian Species. 762: 1–11. doi:10.1644/1545-1410(2005)762[0001:PL]2.0.CO;2.
  2. ^ "Kalahari xeric savanna". Worldwildife.org. 2016. Retrieved 2016-07-27.
  3. ^ Geptner, V. G., Sludskij, A. A. (1972). Mlekopitajuščie Sovetskogo Soiuza. Vysšaia Škola, Moskva. (In Russian; English translation: Heptner, V.G., Sludskii, A. A., Komarov, A., Komorov, N.; Hoffmann, R. S. (1992). Mammals of the Soviet Union. Vol III: Carnivores (Feloidea). Smithsonian Institution and the National Science Foundation, Washington DC).