Talk:Kalki 2898 AD

Prabhas on top

Prabhas should be credited 1st in the starring and cast section Aksh vats (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

https://www.tollywood.net/prabhas-and-nag-ashwin-film-going-to-be-costliest-movie-ever-made-in-india/# Here it is stated that prabhas will be the main lead im the film, so he must be credited on the top . Aksh vats (talk) 11:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

@Aksh vats: Being the "main lead" is not the criteria here. Christopher Reeve is the lead of Superman (1978) but he's credited third. If you take Indian examples, Mohanlal is credited before Jr NTR in Janatha Garage (2016). Same way, Bachchan is credited before Ranbir Kapoor in Brahmāstra (2022). -- Ab207 (talk) 12:54, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, @Ab207 Please refer to this poster https://twitter.com/VyjayanthiFilms/status/1232571451972014080?t=3JsHayILP5mYGFihAJr71g&s=19

I think u dont have any reason not to credit prabhas 1st Aksh vats (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

@Aksh vats: That's an old poster from Feb 2020 when Prabhas was the only cast member. The latest one from Apr 2022 obviously takes the precedence. In future, if you can find any evidence that Prabhas is credited before Bachchan, then it can be changed. Until then, the current order should remain. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh yes ! That's fine ,waiting for the title announsment and first look poster ,thank you. Aksh vats (talk) 15:08, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

You are wrong to use an cast announcement photo. That is just letting the public know Amitabh is joining the cast. It's not an official poster, and shouldnt be used like that. 71.244.142.238 (talk) 09:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

If an supporting character gets a announcement poster does that mean they are the lead? Like come on man 71.244.142.238 (talk) 09:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Please see the order in this poster. Not Bachchan's casting announcement yet he is mentioned first.

Your perception of lead or supporting roles hardly matters here. There are numerous instances where so called supporting actors got the top credit (examples given above). -- Ab207 (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Amitabh Bachan’a accident

Amitabh bachan was injured during shooting. Shouldn’t that be included? RoundStrider (talk) 18:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2023

Amory ryan (talk) 10:11, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

have a look on budget of movie mentioned it doesnt make sense and edit it properly

Corrected. NaanReady (talk) 10:13, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

 Already done Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 10:55, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2023

Change "Languages Telugu Hindi" to " Languages Telugu Hindi Tamil Malayalam Kannada English Chinese " Navaneeth gajula (talk) 23:25, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Xan747 (talk) 01:32, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Language

@Kailash29792:@Ab207: What does the director mean by some scenes shot in Hindi. This is a Telugu film. It sounds as if many scenes will be shot in only Telugu. DareshMohan (talk) 02:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 and Ab207: This source clearly says that - "It was simultaneously shot in Telugu and Hindi and will have a wide release in India and around the world.". I've restored it after some newbie suer and possible IP sock of them removed it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:49, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

It is made in telugu

Please, change the Indian film to Indian telugu film. It is our pride and our production with our director. Originated in telugu. Vishwa Krish (talk) 10:32, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2023

Request for adding actors in cast section as per imdb source Nameiscs (talk) 06:49, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. see WP:IMDB, not considered reliable as it is user generated Cannolis (talk) 07:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Title

Does the title include a hyphen/dash? The article title currently is "Kalki 2898 AD", but it is referred to as "Kalki 2898 – A.D" throughout the article with both an endash and a period/full stop after the letter "A".  — Archer1234 (t·c) 18:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Changed to Kalki 2898 AD throughout.—indopug (talk) 03:09, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Produced in Telugu film industry

Please stop editing out Information regarding this. The movie is produced by Telugu film industry, and is filmed in both Telugu & Hindi. Director Nag Ashwin already cleared this himself in the interview with Collider in LA. The film is primarily shot in Telugu with important scenes being reshot in Hindi. Link of the interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcnaqIgOR2M Timestamp : 8:10 @Gotitbro Rishabmalu (talk) 02:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I had only made a singular edit regarding the reinsertion of non-standard content in the article, tagging that as "persistent disruption" shows a lack of understanding as to what those terms mean and a lack of WP:AGF on your part with needlessly agrressive WP:BATTLEGROUND beahviour in your edit summary and comment above. I gravely suggest you tone that down.

Now, coming to the edits which you have dubiously restored twice (against WP:BRD), first there is a reason we do not have a dialogue parameter in {{Infobox film}}, to insert that forcefully through a module is dubious, promotional and not in line with MOS:FILM and the documentation for the template [the current parameters in that infobox have been reached through extensive disussions and cannot be wishy washy done away with], you are free to look at any WP:FA articles as examples, e.g. Mulholland Drive (film), for how the infobox is supposed to function.

Second countries and production houses are the descriptives we use in describing film background not subnational industries, here Telugu cinema, for Indian films the precedent is to use language descriptives and your insertion of the industry is against precedent and non-standard. If the argument is that the film is primarily in Telugu and should be labelled as such, start a discussion or an WP:RFA here regarding that (as had been done for say 2.0 (film)), but insertions going against consensus by using vague allusions to ICTF are not done.

Thirdly, I agreed with Indopug (along with the rest of their cleanup) in the removal of clear WP:PROMO insertion of the San Diego Comic-Con screening, which with its WP:PEACOCK wording (along with the genre-bending nonsense in the body) is advertorial and non-encyclopedic in nature.

This was the reason your "re-insertion" was undone and similar reasons were given in Indopug's edit summaries, all of which have been conveniently ignored. Gotitbro (talk) 11:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

So, the account was a sock should have been expected. Gotitbro (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: What do you think of this and this after this? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:12, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I have copyedited the odd sentence construction. Looking at the quote, its alright. Anyhow when the film releases, it will become clearer and how much of a simultaneous re-shot it is. Gotitbro (talk) 10:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Jayanthkumar123: The guideline per WP:BRD is to dicuss edits and seek consensus at the talk page when your edits have been objected to (here by different editors). Now coming to your insertion of "with few scenes reshot", it is grammatically incorrect and odd which is why it was paraphrased, also let's look at the quote "Some scenes would definitely be more impactful if we are shooting it in Hindi. So we are shooting it in two languages. But for the most part it's a Telugu film." It nowhere says that only some scenes were shot in Hindi, that is WP:SYNTH on your part. The quote is highlighting the impact of reshooting some parts but what it definitively says is this "So we are shooting it in two languages."

Despite this (giving the benefit to the last part "But for the most part it's a Telugu film."), I thought it prudent to let your insertions stand for the time-being (till the film actually releases) in wait for a clearer picture to emerge. But if you continue down this WP:EDITWARRING track, I am afraid we would have to go back to a WP:STABLE version prior to your insertions. Gotitbro (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Also, be careful of the WP:3RR (three-revert rule) which you are on the verge of violating at this article. Gotitbro (talk) 13:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

The talk can't go according you. As per my knowledge of Engish language, "some" is equal to "few". So, I have done the edit. No need to "let" my insertions stand, because the line is according to the words said by the director. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Asking for discussion is not the same as the WP:CANTHEARYOU behaviour shown by you here without any attempt to engage in the said discussion. The heart of the issue is not how you yourself parse the language but that your method of doing it is WP:SYNTH. I have no interest in this article beyond encyclopedic integrity, but you better read up on the various WP policies which you are clearly unfamiliar with. Gotitbro (talk) 11:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Cast update

Kamal Hasan plays the role of Kali who is the antagonist and Deepika Padukone plays the role of Padma. RyuShin07 (talk) 12:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2024

The release date needs to be updated! Yashk0618 (talk) 22:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Please indicate what the actual release date should be, then, alongside a reliable source to verify it. —Sirdog (talk) 01:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2024

Change X to Y

Under Marketing section,

X - On 19 July 2023, the film's first look was released.[52] [53][54] Kalki 2898 AD became the first Indian film to be presented at San Diego Comic-Con's prestigious "Hall-H" on 20 July 2023, where the makers unveiled the official title & glimpse of the highly anticipated film.[55][56]

Y - On 19 July 2023, the film's first look was released. It received negative response and later deleted by makers from social media handles and uploaded with some changes which also received criticism. Kalki 2898 – A.D became the first Indian film to be presented at San Diego Comic-Con's "Hall-H" on 20 July 2023, where the makers unveiled the official title and glimpse.

Reason: Current version is edited by a sockly blocked user see. So it should be removed. Change X to Y. 103.166.244.177 (talk) 09:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done Charliehdb (talk) 09:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

References

Language

It is clear from the trailer that all of the dialogues of the trailer are dubbed in Hindi. Surprisingly unlike Prabhas' earlier films there is no lipsync in Hindi. The director has a bad history with false bilinguals. The trailer is an amalgamation of many scenes throughout the film, so if they were to reshoot important scenes in Hindi, it would have been evident in the trailer. He wanted to shoot in Hindi but did not update the media that he didn't @Kailash29792: @Ab207: Thoughts? The CBFC having a certificate for Hindi is confusing, maybe wait till release?DareshMohan (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Pinging @Gotitbro:. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

The CBFC search engine does not specify whether the certified language is dubbed or not, unlike its certificates which do. Search Baahubali 2: The Conclusion on the there and you can see it only lists the language (Hindi etc.) and no further, while the title portion of actual CBFC certificates (e.g. here) goes something like this: [Film title]+[Film format (e.g. cinemascope)+[Dubbed (if that is the case)]+[Subtitles and their language (if any)]+[The original title and language (which has been dubbed over) (not always shown)].

For now, our own analsyis from trailers should not have any bearing on article content (per WP:SYNTH). As an encyclopedia, we are in no hurry and can wait for the film to release or for further information to be revealed by the makers (who have so far stuck for its simultaneous shooting).

Till then stay put with what the latest sources have to say about this. If it turns out, from sources, that a dubbed certificate was actually given or that the reshot scenes are minor, this can be revisited. Gotitbro (talk) 21:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I say wait till release. Kailash29792 (talk) 23:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @DareshMohan. Seconding @Kailash29792. We can wait till it releases for more clarity. Ab207 (talk) 11:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Even though the CBFC certificate says it as an original one, most of the scenes are primarily shot in Telugu. The most recent example being Aranmanai 4, the Telugu version Baak has Telugu-specific actors Vennela Kishore and Srinivasa Reddy, with the CBFC certificate saying it as the original version (not a dubbed version of Tamil-language version). But, still the film is noted as Tamil-language on the article. So, it's better to mention as Telugu-language film, providing a note that "some scenes were reshot in Hindi", similar to that of Saaho. Pinging @Ab207 @Kailash29792 Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 12:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)