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Why this is not a copyright violation; but was sloppy editing --Gadget850 16:20, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The policy is very confusing but, in a nutshell, there have been problems with folks cuting and pasting text right off of the Institute of Heraldry and replacing medals articles with the text. See Talk:U.S. Army Institute of Heraldry for details. I think there's no denying that the entire U.S. section of the article is word-for-word the same as the IOH website. It probably was a misunderstanding, maybe sloppy editing, nobody is saying anyone is a bad person. The temp page can be fixed up and replace the article. Hope that clears it up. -Husnock 16:33, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This is a missuse of the copyvio template since it is text from the public domain. --Pmsyyz 09:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
IOH copyrights all of thier material and states they must be used with permission. For someone to simply cut and paste and entire chunk of material of IOH, and then state it is thier work, is a very clear copyright violation against the Institute of Heraldry and also against Wiki policies about cutting and pasting material (word for word) already posted on other websites. We had the same problem on Purple Heart and Medal of Honor and it was just as quickly reverted there as it was identified here. -Husnock 17:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The IOH DOES NOT and CANNOT[1] copyright all of their material. As part of the federal government, all of thier work is public domain unless there is a federal law that says differently. The word copyright does not appear on any of the IOH website's 20,000 pages indexed by google, and the only laws referred to by the IOH website [2][3] are about the wear, manufacture and sale. So unless you can find a law that says otherwise, the text can be used as the basis for articles and the copyvio template should be removed at once. --Pmsyyz 21:05, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is all besides the point. Copying and pasting text from other websites, word for word, in effect "stealing" from the other websites is very bad form and has been reverted by many other users (not just me). It also is borderline plagiarism. The temp page is fine and this matter can be dropped once an admin removes the copyvio notice and repalces the questionable text with the info from the temp page. -Husnock 21:23, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is no problem with rewriting material from another website, but to simply cut and paste it, whether a copyvio or not, is, as Husnock says, very bad form and is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Whether strictly accurate or not, the copyvio notice seems appropriate in this case, since we do not wish to encourage straight cutting and pasting. -- Necrothesp 22:07, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why this is dragging on so long. Since I am the user who posted the questionable material, let me respond here:

  • The material I aquired did not originally come from TIOH, see my notes at [4].
  • Even the reverted text includes some material that matches TIOH (and about 50 other sites as I found).
  • TIOH does not have any copyright statement on the text (just a notice of protection on the images, see Template:PD-USGov-Military-Army-USAIOH). So in my opinion, technically this was not a copyright violation, given the source.
  • However, it was bad form to paste the text in directly, and it was not in compliance with Don't include copies of primary sources. It also included material that did not need to be in the article.
  • {[n my opinion, and after repeated reading of Wikipedia:Copyright problems, this could have been resolved by a simple revert, unless all the material ever added to the article was in violation.
  • At least this has rather forced me to look carefully at the policies and guidelines. I believe I have some worthwhile things to contibute here, and intend to continue to do so, and do so in the spirit of Wikipedia. A little dialog would have had this sorted out long ago.
  • It has been over a month, perhaps this should be brought to the attention of an admin.

Peace --Gadget850 22:52, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, absolutely. I am wondering why an admin hasnt removed the notice since the temp page is fine. -Husnock 23:10, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Since the temp page seems in order, an admin should come over and replace the article with the temp page to clear the copyvio -Husnock 17:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

need few seconds

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i made an image of two medals , one from Kuwait and other is from Saudi , but i couldnt reconize them , can someone tells their propose ?

saudi medal (left) , kuwaiti medal (right)

Ammar (Talk - Don't Talk) 18:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for no answer , hehe i already knew . the one on left is a Combat Medal during Battle of Khafji. and the other is for Liberation of Kuwait. Ammar (Talk - Don't Talk) 15:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 11:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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