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Land was nominated as a Geography and places good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (May 1, 2023, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Section sizes

Section size for Land (37 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	3,475	3,475
Definition	1,764	1,764
Etymology	3,563	3,563
Physical science	376	33,144
Formation	12,236	12,236
Landmasses	2,073	2,073
Terrain	7,070	7,070
Geomorphology	8,559	8,559
Climate	2,830	2,830
Features	742	16,510
Coasts and islands	7,088	7,088
Mountains and plateaus	3,701	3,701
Plains and valleys	2,990	2,990
Caves and craters	1,989	1,989
Layers	761	20,174
Land cover	2,916	2,916
Soil	10,958	10,958
Continental crust	5,539	5,539
Life science	447	10,910
Land biomes	7,601	7,601
Fauna and flora	2,862	2,862
Humans and land	1,044	32,072
Culture	8,146	8,146
Travel	4,844	4,844
Trade	3,175	3,175
Land use	6,796	6,796
Law	2,508	2,508
Geopolitics	5,559	5,559
Environmental issues	3,593	19,190
Soil degradation	4,683	4,683
Pollution	4,080	4,080
Biodiversity loss	4,801	4,801
Resource depletion	2,033	2,033
Gallery	817	817
See also	52	52
Notes	26	26
References	243	243
Total	141,940	141,940

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What still ought to be done?

It seems like it's been quite a while since any work has been done on this article; but it seems like it was relatively close to hitting the GA criteria as of the review last year. I added a new set of images to the article, which was a prominent issue raised in the review - what sections should be focused on to help take this up to GA quality? The to-do list in this section seems to be a bit outdated and at least partially implemented. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Generalissima: here is how I see it, summarizing the GA review comments and my own thoughts:

'Features' section needs rewriting.
'Etymology' in my opinion needs to be A) sourced B) chopped up to just be the relevant bits.
'Terrain' needs to be rewritten to use prose instead of definitions.
We need a strong lead that is MOS compliant. Leads seem to attract miscellaneous facts over time.
Need a better ecology section
Needs a look over the entire article for focus and clarity
A source review is needed. We are at 200 sources, do we need this many? Maybe we do.
We need to comb through the revisions since May of last year to find any poor quality contributions and remove them.

I have given a couple articles a similar treatment, but I think this one luckily does not require a full rewrite, so it won't be hard to take care of this. I'll consider making this my next project. ForksForks (talk) 00:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ForksForks: This is super helpful and thorough! Seems like you're the one to do it with your experience on Island. If you'd like to work together on this, I'd love to help out! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please knock out as much as you like. Many hands make light work. ForksForks (talk) 00:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph of the terrain section does not seem to actually be sourced. For some reason I'm having trouble using OED on the computer I'm on right now. Just flagging this for now. ForksForks (talk) 13:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Can someone provide feedback on if this is an acceptable source for the ecology of terrestrial animals? I'm worried this may be a tertiary source but it reads more like a journal article with direct citations to papers. ForksForks (talk) 14:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]