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Biggest Hit?

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Does anyone have any proof that this song is Pearl Jam's biggest hit? I'm pretty sure other songs are more popular. These7enthprophet 16:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)\[reply]

Even Flow, Black, Jeremy, Betterman, were all way more popular than last kiss

"Last Kiss" was their biggest selling and highest charting single.BP322 20:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dudes, isn't "Last Kiss" from Buddy Holly?
I'm pretty sure that Last Kiss is from Buddy Holly, not from Pearl Jam!
Wayne Cochran first recorded this in 1961. Holly died approximately 1:30AM CST on February 3, 1959.

What about Ricky Nelson's version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.236.82.168 (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2009 (UTC) No Buddy Holly didn't cover this song but Pearl Jam did LOL. Buddy Holly died in 1959, two years before this song was written, and five years before it became a hit.Roricka (talk) 04:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dates

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From the article: It has been long rumored that the song was based on the auto accident of Sixteen-year-old Jeanette Clark who was out on a date in Barnesville, Georgia on December 22, 1962, the Saturday before Christmas. She was with a group of friends in a 1954 Chevrolet. J. L. Hancock, also sixteen, was driving the car in heavy traffic and while traveling on Highway 341, collided with a Log Truck. Clark, Hancock, and another teenager were killed, and two other teens in the car were seriously injured. This could not be true - since the song was written and recorded in the summer of 1961.

From Our Georgia History:

December 22, 1962 Jeanette Clark, a 16 year old Barnesville, Georgia native, dies in a car accident on U. S. Highway 341, along with 2 other teenagers who were attending Gordon College. Wayne Cochran, who had already written "Last Kiss," dedicated the song to Clark.

Randy Golden (talk) 13:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the accident that inspired the song occurred on December 22, 1962, there is no way the single was released in 1962. DCEdwards1966 19:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The song was released in 1963 - the article says that Cochran wrote it in 1962 (presumably shortly after the accident occurred). MFNickster (talk) 18:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not commenting on whether this true story is the source of this song, but the first section says it is and then the second section reuses a lot of the same text before stating "However, this tragedy could not be the source of the song...". So whichever narrative this article is going to use, it should at least be self-consistent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.135.248 (talk) 01:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]


There is also an on going dispute about who made the first spanish version. The information however, puts the Mexicans, Peruvians and Colombian/Ecuatorian in that order. However, the first to are listed as in the 1960's and the last one in the mid-60s. Given that the song was released in 1963, mostly sure all, mexicans, peruvians and colombians released the disc in mid-60s. There are no references about the releases by any of those performers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.4.134.58 (talk) 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:PJLastKiss.jpg

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genre

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My late aunt, who was very much into music in the early 1960s (she turned 20 in 1959), once told me that "Last Kiss" was part of a short-lived genre called "sickos," songs that were about tragic teen deaths and other sob stories. She mentioned "Leader of the Pack" and "Dead Man's Curve" (both 1964) as other examples, and noted that there were other much less successful "sickos" as well. Of course, "Roger's Aunt Mari" would not pass muster as citation. However, a mimimum of research could confirm that contemporary music producers, consumers, and critics recognised such a trend in popular tastes and gave it a name. If it did happen, it would be worth noting in the wiki articles about the songs and might even warrant an article on its own. If any authorities on early rock/pop music are reading this, could you investigate this matter further, please? 165.91.64.158 (talk)RKH —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

See Teenage tragedy song.-5- (talk) 19:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re-record

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If you get a chance, listen to the youtube videos, they have the Gala records, and the re-record with King records. Like night and day. It's a pity, the Gala record is atrocious, no wonder the music was not a success for Wayne Cochran. Benkenobi18 (talk) 13:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Story?

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The "story of the song" section seems redundant for anyone who has heard the song. The section just writes the lyrics out with a (barely) different wording. I suggest it be deleted, or changed into a "lyrics" section. Dpenn89 (talk) 21:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism?

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The following line appears in the "J. Frank Wilson" section: "Released on September 5, 1964, Josie 923 spent 15 weeks on the charts...." I assume the song title, "Last Kiss," should be where "Josie 923" appears. Since I have nothing to do with this page, having come purely for research, I will leave it for now. Also, I don't want to make changes based on assumption, even though it's pretty clearly wrong. I will try to check back, and make the change if no one else see fit to do so. Also assuming there are no objections. ;) Jororo05 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's been over 3 weeks with no comment or correction, so I'm going to make the change.Jororo05 (talk) 22:18, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I see now. "Josie 923" is apparently an industry-type method of labeling a particular release of a record. I guess I'll leave it alone, but it seems a bit esoteric to me. Since the section is about the J. Frank Wilson version (take #64), I would think specifying some code-name for it is less than helpful to the average person, even though the "key" to the code is in the previous pararaph. Stylistically clumsy, but it's not really the "vandalism" I thought it was, so I'm not touching it. Cheers. Jororo05 (talk) 22:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Authorship

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Reviewing this article, I was immediately troubled by the lack of sourcing for the claim that Joe Carpenter, Randall Hoyal & Bobby McGlon co-wrote "Last Kiss", and by their being listed as credited writers in the infoboxes even though the body of the article plainly states that they were never credited. The only source cited is an obituary which says Carpenter "contributed lyrics" with no further information on his exact contribution nor why he was not credited for it, and makes no mention of Hoyal or McGlon at all. I checked the article history to see if whoever added this claim could provide further information, and found that it was added by an IP address editor on August 28, 2010 in an edit which removed several references and some sourced content, added several unsourced claims, and mucked up wikilink code. The obituary ref was added just a couple hours later by Guwedoe, an editor whose 18 edits are all to this article. Needless to say, this leaves me more doubtful than ever that this claim is true. At any rate, we don't have any sourcing for it, so I'm going to remove it from the article. If anyone has further info, please post it here. Martin IIIa (talk) 00:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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