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Bird strike count

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The text was modified to state there were 6 hull losses due to bird strikes, but perusal of the article shows there were 7:

  1. 1 November 1996: Pilots ejected after a bird strike caused a catastrophic engine failure while in a night landing pattern at NAS Kingsville, Texas. The student was seriously injured when ejected through the canopy due to a jettison failure.
  2. 15 April 1997: Sole pilot ejected after a bird strike caused a catastrophic engine failure on approach to NAS Kingsville, Texas
  3. 27 September 2007: The aircraft crashed about 13 miles west of NAS Kingsville, Texas, after a bird strike, student pilot ejected with minor injuries
  4. 1 October 2007: The aircraft crashed 2 miles north of NAS Kingsville, Texas, after a bird strike, both pilots safely ejected
  5. 17 January 2017: The Goshawk crashed on the runway at NAS Meridian, Mississippi, after a bird strike, both pilots ejected safely
  6. 19 September 2021: A T-45C crashed into a residential neighborhood in Lake Worth, Texas, about 2 miles away from NAS JRB Fort Worth, damaging at least 3 homes and injuring 5, including the student pilot and instructor, one pilot became entangled in power lines. It was later determined that the jet experienced a bird strike while on approach
  7. 17 August 2022: A Goshawk crashed into an empty field, following a bird strike, while on approach to NAS Kingsville, Texas. The single crew member, an instructor, safely ejected

Text was corrected Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 19:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a loss?

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@Tfdavisatsnetnet: The last incident, on 2024-04-12, does not seem like it should be in this article, as it seems to be an engine failure that was repaired (i.e., not a loss). According to ADSB data for the time and place, it appears to be article 165464 / ICAO AE62B5 / callsign OSHN121, one of a flight of two T-45 (with 165463/AE62CF/CARP150). The last data was received at 2024-04-12T18:53:00Z, while the wingman continued on to descend and probably land at KMEI (coverage of the area is not great). 165464 appears again as OSHN121 coming out of KNMM about 2024-05-09T13:34Z, and most days since, usually with a *121 callsign. I'll note the reference mentions another engine failure in March that we don't show either. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was split on this myself. I could go either way, thanks. If we keep it the March incident should be added. Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 00:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]