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Section sizes

Section size for List of communist states (11 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	317	317
Current communist states	2,883	6,044
Disputed	3,161	3,161
Multi-party states with governing communist parties	3,972	3,972
Former communist states	37,701	37,701
Notes	34	34
References	30	30
Bibliography	19	11,901
General	622	622
Articles and journal entries	6,703	6,703
Books	4,557	4,557
Total	59,999	59,999

Inclusion of Guinea-Bissau, Cabo Verde, and São Tomé and Príncipe?

After its independence in 1973, Guinea-Bissau was ruled as a one-party state by the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde, which espoused Marxism–Leninism. The party also governed Cabo Verde from its independence in 1975 to 1980, when a military coup in Guinea-Bissau led to the end of the union between the two states. The African Party for the Independence of Cape Verde, established in 1981, continued to espouse Marxism–Leninism and ruled as the sole legal party until the introduction of multi-party democracy in 1990. In Guinea-Bissau, the PAIGC likewise continued its rule as the sole legal party until it introduced multi-party democracy in 1991. In São Tomé and Príncipe, which gained its independence in 1975, the Marxist–Leninist Movement for the Liberation of São Tomé and Príncipe ruled, again as the sole legal party, until it too introduced multi-party democracy in 1990. I propose these three states be added to the list. The only issue is that they do not have distinct pages for their respective periods of communist rule, like for example the Seychelles do. This leaves me uncertain as to how to proceed, as every other state which is included (that is not currently a communist state like Cuba) has a distinct page for its communist era. How should I proceed? Do the states mentioned even merit including? If not, why? Patriotparty1776 (talk) 06:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two things

1) None of these countries even pretended to be Communist – they were, at best, socialist, and communism was seen the eventuality of a socialist world. Read about the withering away of the state.

2) It should at least be noted that the status of some socialist states as 'Communist' is disputed.

Maurnxiao (talk) 20:51, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicaragua

So Nicaragua is in a weird state. The country isn't communist, but it's ruling party is socialist and it's dictatorial right now. The current leader, Ortega is a Sandinista, a group that claims to be "Christian" socialists, but not communists from what I could tell. (Note, I put quotes around Christian because his government right now is oppressing priests for giving medical care to protesters, either way, topic for another article) When I look more information up, they seem to be in a China like situation where the state controls a lot of capitalism. How should we mark it? Thx, PizzaHamburgerGuy (talk) 04:22, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so I looked over it more and it's under the section multiparty states, but it's info is outdated. I guess I'll just fix it there

Signing out, PizzaHamburgerGuy (talk) 04:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]