Talk:List of countries by GDP (nominal)/Archive 2

Spain ahead of canada and soon ahead of italy

You just have to take a look at updated info. Besides spain is growing at a faster rate than italy (aproximately 4 times faster) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.36.247.21 (talk) 18:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Why is the African Union not included

If something pointless such as the EU is to be included under "COUNTRIES by GDP", not unions, then the AU and all other similar Unions need to be included. I can really not think of one logical reason as to why the EU is included on this list, not one. This is a specifically of countries. Can someone please give me one valid reason as to why its included?

Because the sources who made the lists list the EU. Not really any other reason. BTW, the EU is a far tighter body than the AU.72.147.217.63 (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Why is there only 1 list here - where is the Comparative List?

What happened to the World Bank & CIA lists? Where have they gone? How can we be sure the information provided here is completely accurate if the relevant and accurate information of similar World Recognised Organisations is being ignored? Shouldn't all relevant statistics of nominal GDP information by respected and World recognised organisations be included rather than certain users deciding that we will only use the figures from one particular organisation over another? This is supposed to be an encyclopedia with relevant information from respected sources - not a place to choose and prefer one version of reality over another.jkm 16:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

And after the first list of only the IMF now we have the IMF and the World bank. Either there was a coincidence that the CIA factbook wasn't added back or there was a reason, probably because the CIA factbook lists the USA as having the highest economy in the world, methinks a european or just another bland anti-american has been editing this... 207.6.113.119 06:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The IMF and WB also list the U.S. as having the largest ("highest"?) single-nation economy. Your argument is nonsensical. Historian932 (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You should carry out both theory writing together of PPP and the nominal

Only GDP (PPP) appears in the basic data of each country. However,the argument is divided about the credibility of PPP. Should not GDP (nominal) be written together, either?

India's GDP

What sources did you guys base on to rank India as having the second largest GDP, even outdoing Japan, Germany and the PRC?

Republic Of Ireland?

Where in the blue hell is the Republic Of Ireland? I have numerous sources of it being in the Top 20 richest countries and it aint even in the list! Pog Ma Thoin!

how do you looking at the table? it's on 30 place. Elk Salmon 18:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh lol. My bad.

India's GDP (nominal)

It was actually reported in July 2005 that India had become the 10th largest economy (nominal GDP) in the world, although I have to find an actual source for this. This page still lists India as 12th?? If there is no objection I will edit this page along with a credible source.

Nitnaga 25 April 2006

The list was updated according to the IMF report of April 2006.

mainbody

India at current Exchange rate of Rs 40 to USD will be a $ 1.67 Trillion Dollar Economy

Why is there only 1 list here - where is the Comparative List?

What happened to the World Bank & CIA lists? Where have they gone? How can we be sure the information provided here is completely accurate if the relevant and accurate information of similar World Recognised Organisations is being ignored? Shouldn't all relevant statistics of nominal GDP information by respected and World recognised organisations be included rather than certain users deciding that we will only use the figures from one particular organisation over another? This is supposed to be an encyclopedia with relevant information from respected sources - not a place to choose and prefer one version of reality over another.jkm 16:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

And after the first list of only the IMF now we have the IMF and the World bank. Either there was a coincidence that the CIA factbook wasn't added back or there was a reason, probably because the CIA factbook lists the USA as having the highest economy in the world, methinks a european or just another bland anti-american has been editing this... 207.6.113.119 06:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The IMF and WB also list the U.S. as having the largest ("highest"?) single-nation economy. Your argument is nonsensical. Historian932 (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You should carry out both theory writing together of PPP and the nominal

Only GDP (PPP) appears in the basic data of each country. However,the argument is divided about the credibility of PPP. Should not GDP (nominal) be written together, either?

India's GDP

What sources did you guys base on to rank India as having the second largest GDP, even outdoing Japan, Germany and the PRC?

Republic Of Ireland?

Where in the blue hell is the Republic Of Ireland? I have numerous sources of it being in the Top 20 richest countries and it aint even in the list! Pog Ma Thoin!

how do you looking at the table? it's on 30 place. Elk Salmon 18:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh lol. My bad.

India's GDP (nominal)

It was actually reported in July 2005 that India had become the 10th largest economy (nominal GDP) in the world, although I have to find an actual source for this. This page still lists India as 12th?? If there is no objection I will edit this page along with a credible source.

Nitnaga 25 April 2006

The list was updated according to the IMF report of April 2006.

mainbody

India at current Exchange rate of Rs 40 to USD will be a $ 1.67 Trillion Dollar Economy

China's economy

BBC just broadcast that China has passed Britain as world's 4th largest economy.

China has revised the 2004 figure from $1,982,487.2 million to $2,267,687.2 million according to a Chinadaily article [1] with an exchange rate of 0.124 dollar per yuan. Problem is that the article also says that China’s GDP is 6th in the world (past Italy, before Britain and France). Our list says currently 4th, and the 2005 figures from IMF are still estimates. - 212.102.225.147 09:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong. China only revised its 2004 GDP figure to about US$1.95 trillion. The US$2.25 trillion you quoted is for 2005, and this list is ONLY FOR 2004. Furthermore, it doesn't matter by how much China revised its 2004 GDP by. Because this is a list compiled from IMF and the World Bank, not from the Chinese statistics. So, although the figure from IMF and the World Bank is underestimated now, still, we must take it as it is because once again I repeat, this is a list whose data is based on IMF and the World Bank only (please read the title). Thus, China remains the "seventh largest economy in 2004" with about "US$1.6 trillion" in GDP. Again, I know it's false now (after the upward revision), but please leave it as it is for reasons already mentioned. Thank you. Heilme 04:21, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Hongkong listed separately?

Hongkong SAR has been part of China since 1997, the Chinese central government have full control of the city of Hongkong. I don't see why would Hongkong be listed as a separate "country" while Puerto Rico, which is officially not a US state or city, not being listed as a country. The CIA World Factbook correctly lists Puerto Rico as a separate country, https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rq.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.172.82.62 (talk • contribs) 18:24, February 4, 2006 (UTC).

Yes, true that Hong Kong is not a country (it's a SAR of PRC), but, it is usually more common to define and separate Hong Kong's much more developed economy from the economy of the Chinese mainland, thus HK is listed separately. Not because of its status as a country, rather, due to economic independence from the PRC. Heilme 05:11, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes and no. Unless in circumstances that country is taken as a synomym of sovereign state, or else these places that are not sovereign states are normally classified as countries, together with other sovereign states. It is not merely because of its economic independence from the rest of the PRC, but also its political status. — Instantnood 20:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

(response to 207.172.82.62's comment at 18:24, February 4) The Central People's Government of the PRC does not directly have full control, since most power and duties are with Hong Kong as according to the Basic Law. Hong Kong has no city status, nor is it a city as according to PRC's terminologies for administrative divisions. — Instantnood 20:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Recent edits/reversions

I recently reverted to a prior version of the article/list. I am all for including updated figures (i.e., 2005 IMF estimates) and believe they are good-faith edits (I even added a proviso earlier); however upon perusal, some of the values are incomplete and I restored a prior list where confidence in the figures is higher. Please test here or in the sandbox beforehand.

I'd also like to remind editors – and you know who you are – of reverting and referring to good-faith edits as vandalism. Moreover, continued attempts to insinuate a top-bottom table arrangement without renewed discussion, despite consensus support for a side-by-side arrangement to the contrary, will be dealt with appropriately. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 12:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreed! 2005 estimates where straight from IMF link [2] which had the same omissions. I wasn’t to sure about the value of adding the 2005 estimates column, guess I have my answer now :-). - 212.102.225.147 14:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

China's (mainland) GDP in 2004

Whoever tried to edit China's GDP for 2004, please refrain from doing so. I know that in December 2005, China has revised upwards its GDP figure from 1993-2004 by about 16.8%. However, it must be understood that the GDP list here is based ONLY from IMF and World Bank, which have yet to update its 2004 GDP figure for China. Although the true correct GDP figure for China in 2004 is approximately US$1.95 trillion, this is not based on any information from World Bank and IMF. So, please leave it as it is at approximate US$1.6 trillion. This is false and outdated, I agree and I repeat, but I want to be consistent with whatever IMF and World Bank figures provide, no matter how inaccurate their data is. Heilme 05:12, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the above. In due course, in their leaden way, the WB and IMF will alter their data. But, I added in a note on the 16.8% revision in March 2006, without altering the actual figures, & someone then removed it. That represents a destruction of information = vandalism.

Now wait a minute... I made it a footnote with the exact same wording you used. Is that destruction of information=vandalism? Was that wrong? --212.102.225.147 12:00, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I think if it's in footnote, it should be OK. But don't change the number US$1.6 trillion in the list for now. I like the current format, with the footnote. Heilme 08:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

A similar situation is going on List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita for an updated Canada figure (a 2005 figure in a 2004 column). Maybe you could have a look there to. --212.102.225.147 12:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

China is now number 4 largest in nominal terms

This article is outdated..... Naus 23:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Why was my new page with a projected nominal GDP table wiped ?

I only added a pointer to that new page from this page. It seems that it is useful information to add as a separate page. Cantus, you made the mod..could you explain the reason to not add the information on a separate location? Thanks 165.140.4.22 00:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC) blwang

It seems that the page that I was adding was following the wiki rules. It was verifiable and from a reliable source. The IMF database.

As noted in my notes in the Canada section 15 of this discussion. The IMF projections more closely match other reliable sources like statistics canada for the canada entry and other countries current statistical reports.

I saw that someone else had created the estimated PPP for 2006 and there was a link for an uncreated page for estimated GDP nominal 2006. So I created that page and a matching on for 2007.

Mercosur trade bloc

It would be interesting if, in addition to NAFTA and the European Union, the Mercosur trade bloc were included in GDP Nominal terms. Maybe someone could figure that out. Vivaldi4Stagioni 23:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• List of countries by GDP estimates for 2006 (nominal)
• List of countries by GDP estimates for 2007 (nominal)

Zionsville?

Someone (not me) needs to fix that —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.128.57.84 (talk) 21:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC).