Talk:List of filming locations in the Vancouver area

Television series included in list of films?

I am considering removing all the television series from this list such as Stargate SG-1, 21 Jump Street, Smallville, etc. as they are not films and I recommend that this list deal specifically with films. There is already another category for TV series Category:Vancouver television series and most of the TV series in this "list of filming locations in and around Vancouver" are already in the "Vancouver television series" category and if they are not I will create an entry for them. Before I do this though, feedback will be appreciated. OlEnglish (talk) 03:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

In fact, I feel we should split this page into two separate articles: one for movies and the other for TV shows. Is this okay? Lamp301 (talk) 23:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

United 93

Ok, I have seen the movie United 93 (the made for tv movie that was on A and E) and I can almost swear that the airport shown in the opening scenes is Vancouver International. The floor tile pattern seems to be identical to that eastern most section of the US check in terminal, in that large empty area where they film lots of things. Has anyone else seen United 93 and confirm this ?? If so, I will add it in.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raindreamer (talk • contribs)

No, but the TV movie Flight 93 (about the same thing) was filmed here. United 93 is the theatrical version; I think you're confusing that one with the locally-made one. I actually auditioned for Flight 93; it was filmed at YVR and at Boundary Bay Airport. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 05:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes it was Flight 93 The Glenayre building (near 1st and Boundry) was also used as a filming location.Lainyg 00:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Original research?

I assume that all or most of the entries in the article are based on the editors having seen the film and recognized the location. Isn't that a violation of WP:NOR? At any rate, there should be some kind of citation for all the data, right? --Mathew5000 07:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You can always phone up the BC Film Commission to confirm the locations. They have records for this kind of stuff, and it isn't a big deal to phone them up for that. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 07:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

To add to that, I do recall something about the BCFC keeping a list of filming locations. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 08:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

My entries are all based on locations I worked on. However, because I haven't seen all of the final productions, I can't say whether the locations are recognizable (especially true for interior shots). Also, you never know what will end up on the cutting room floor.Lainyg 00:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I should add that while this might be considered original research, the information is verifiable, as Buchanan-Hermit states. My personal knowledge of locations just makes it easier to make addtions to the list.Lainyg 01:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Shot 26 years ago

I saw Out of the Blue (1980 film) at VIFC tonight. I think it was supposed to be set in the US (although that wasn't explicit), but there were many recognizable Vancouver locations. There's one lengthy scene in the Ridge Bowling Alley, and another scene in the "crying room" of the Ridge Theatre, where the main character and her friends are watching some movie. At one point there was a sequence of several short scenes from the downtown peninsula. I think the interior of the Pacific Centre atrium (NE corner of Georgia and Howe) and the exterior of a large Bank of Montreal branch (I think the NW corner of Burrard and Dunsmuir: was the BMO there in 1980?). One scene had her walking by the train tracks near the heliport; the large W atop the Woolworths building was clearly visible. Another scene was on a beach; I'm not sure exactly where that was. --Mathew5000 07:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Format change

I'm gonna change the format back to a list format (as opposed to a table format) because it'll be easier for newcomers to edit the list and because this list is getting quite disorganized. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 23:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Kamloops?

Can we really count Kamloops as "in and around Vancouver"?... - Hinto 05:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Good question. Personally, I wouldn't. But there's no article for outside the Vancouver area yet... -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 01:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we can - It's a location that for the most part would require a base of production in Vancouver, such as Battlestar does.

Yeah, it's an issue in terms of "in and around Vancouver" because the Vancouver film industry "node" services productions in other areas, including Victoria (X-Men especially, cf Hatley Castle and other locations) and Alberta (Brokeback Mountain, Legends of the Fall, The Assassination of Jesse James). I was pondering adding The Pledge, which was primarly shot in Lytton, with some locations in Lillooet; outside Vancouver's 1.25 hr "union zone" but very much a Vancouver-based production; likewise The Grey Fox (also partly shot in Lillooet, Kamloops, Princeton and elsewhere); there's a Richard Gere thing that was shot in the Lions Bay/Brunswick Beach area, also, can't remember its name. Can't add Battle in Seattle yet as it's not in the can (or was it released yet?); it was filmed at various locations in Vancouver...I think the intro paragraph should probably say something about this list includes films based in Vancouver, and may include locations in other areas of the province and (on occasion) Alberta. What's the J.Lo thing shot around Kamloops, anyway? Filmed around the same time as Paycheck, because I remember Ben and J.Lo choppering back and forth to see each other (before he got caught out in Brandi's, that is....). Hmmm. just occurred to me Will Smith dropped by set; I'll check to see if I, Robot is listed under New West, as they used Front Street extensively...Skookum1 20:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

And while we're at it, starting with My American Cousin, there's a number of things that have been shot in the Okanagan which were Vancouver-based; rather than specifying towns, e.g. Penticton, Summerland, Kelowna, might be better just to have an Okanagan section; in the case of Kamloops and Lillooet-Lytton we might maybe say "Thompson-Okanagan" although Lillooet's not quite in that (only in weather forecasts is it lumped in that way...). Come to think of it The Journey of Natty Gann was filmed in Pemberton, too, can't remember what else....Skookum1 20:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Sigh. Then there's Roxanne and other Nelson-filmed items (more than I can think of at the moment); all Vancouver-based.....Skookum1 20:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Might as well add Ashcroft (Unfinished Life) and Kelowna (Fido). I'm sure there are others. Maybe a section for BC's Okanagan and Interior woudn't hurt.Lainyg 01:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

A search for "British Columbia" in imdb.com's locations search is very revealing; see the BC locations in imdb.com section below.Skookum1 (talk) 23:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Richmond Sand Dunes

I can't quite recall where these are...it was so early in the morning when I had to get there, and I was so tired when I left. I'd thought they were on Annacis but in the biz they're called the Richmond Sand Dunes.....definitely in 10.5, the earthquake-schlock thing where L.A. collapses into the sea, and also in other productions - much more major than 10.5 - since that I didn't accept the work on (too hard to get to, too much damned sand/dust; fine if I was getting scale but not non-union...). But not sure what to call them here, or even exactly what they're properly called and/or exactly located.Skookum1 19:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The Richmond Sand Dunes are off Blundell Road and West of No 8 Road...in Richmond. I don't know if there is another name for it. This location has been used a lot for Battlestar Galactica. Some of RV was also shot there.Lainyg 01:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Panorama Studios, West Vancouver?

I'm not even sure the set is still there; the Studios themselves are long shut but I know they were used for something more than McCabe and Mrs. Miller, which it's most famous for and was built for. Don't know enough of its history to even start a stub, but it deserves an article; should I put it in unlinked in the West Van section?Skookum1 03:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Panorama, at 2280 Folkestone Way, West Van, was demolished and is now condos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.188.26 (talk) 22:01, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

night at the museum

The article for Night at the Museum says the museum in the movie was one built on a soundstage in Vancouver, and says nothing about the VAG. Anybody? Bobanny 04:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I know guys who worked on it; they were definitely in VAG but I don't know for how many shots or which scenes...I think the rest was at Vancouver Film Studios (which I won't abbreviate to VFS for obvious reasons...). But I'll ask one of them as we're all going to the premiere of Pathfinder (film) on the 7th, supposedly (my helmet is the one with two downturned horns and a sharp metal nosepiece; you'll notice "me" in a decapitation scene in the shoreline village battle and also in "the killing pond", whipping the hell out of neckchain-bound natives we dragged through it....not sure how I died as a stuntman had the helmet that day. I think I fall off a cliff...which I almost did in real life, though not intentionally...Didn't get cast in Night at the Museum because the big guys in that were all younger stuntmen able to take the blows/falls etc....Skookum1 05:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Images

How many images of filming locations should we place on the articles?--Canadianshoper 22:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Traveler (TV series)

According to its entry on IMDb, the tv series Traveler (TV series) is shot in Greater Vancouver, at various locations including Burnaby, Langley, and Steveston. On the third episode (June 6 2007), there is an extended sequence shot recognizably in Koerner Library (masquerading as Yale). The first episode is set in Manhattan; was that shot in Vancouver? If so they did a good job on that. --Mathew5000 05:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Carnal Knowledge

Carnal Knowledge (film) (1971) was shot partly at Panorama Film studios aka Hollyburn Film Studios (now gone) on Folkestone Way in West Vancouver, with at least one shoot on location at a large mansion in the Kerrisdale area (standing in for an Ivy League campus). It remains a major American film of that time period, with a cast including Jack Nicholson, Art Garfunkle, Candice Bergen, and Ann-Margret. 'That Cold Day in the Park (also shot at Panorama Film Studios) was the one that used the little park near Bayswater & Point Grey, right?Skookum1 (talk) 21:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoa, it's not in the article; I'd add it but I don't know the name of the park and I'm a long way from YVR right now; it's the park to the left/east of the big neocolonial old-sstyle 3 or 4 storey apartment on the corner of Bayswater, adjacent to the little butt-end of 1st that meets MacDonald. It's the opening scene in That Cold Day In the Park. Or so I thought - was it instead at the UBC/UEL "twin" of that same building, which is in the Village? ie. it's not on UBC Campus, if that's the case.Skookum1 (talk) 21:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Move/rename

With the addition of Kamloops, Victoria, Squamish, Hope and others, it's pretty clear this needs to be List of filming locations in British Columbia and the Vancouver-centric title can be ditched.Skookum1 (talk) 21:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Lytton/Lillooet/Pemberton

Thet Pledge with Jack Nicholson, dir. Sean Penn, that was shot in Lytton and Lillooet? Also The Grey Fox used the BCR line between Pavilion and Fountain for one of the robbery shots, and The Adventures of Natty Gann and other things were shot at Pemberton.....these as notes towards a BC-wide article....Nelson for Roxanne of course.....Skookum1 (talk) 21:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Abbotsford

Wasn't Best In Show made at the "plex" (whatever it's called); also a couple of external locations and the town hall where the ventriloquist (played by the film's writer) does his after-dogshow routien....Skookum1 (talk) 15:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Sumas WA

I'm just watching Killer Bees! (2002 made-for-TV) and it's clearly set in Sumas, Washington, at least as far as the script goes; but was this made in Washington or in BC? I can't tell from the sets - cornfields, farmhouses etc - as Whatcom County looks pretty much like Abbotsford/Chilliwack. Anyone have any idea if this was made in BC, or if they actually used Sumas itself? Even if it was made in Sumas the "in and around Vancouver" applies, even though it's on the other side of the border, no?Skookum1 (talk) 15:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

According to the IMDb entry It was filmed in Vancouver. As far as films being made across the border in the US I don't agree that it should be included in this list. Even if it's Blaine, Washington because it's another country and I think this list should deal with strictly Canadian locations. OlEnglish (talk) 20:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

It might have been Yarrow or another small town in teh area, maybe Matsqui Village or Huntingdon (the BC side of Sumas); it was hard to tell; but some of hte building exteriors might well have been Sumas WA or they borrowed the signs anyway.Skookum1 (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

In looking up The Grey Fox, part of it was filmed on the Lummi Rservation in Washington...and it was a Vancouver-based production...the title of this page doesn't say "Canada" or "British Columbia" in it, it only says "in and around Vancouver". Locations in Whatcom County, to me, (I come from Mission) would seem to qualify, international border or not....Skookum1 (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I suppose, as long as it's a "Vancouver-based" production, it could be included. But what about the BC interior section? I wouldn't count Kamloops and Kelowna as being in and around Vancouver, and even if the productions are Vancouver-based, the article title says "filming locations" not where the production company is based. Maybe a separate article for the BC Interior? Or "list of productions based in Vancouver" even? OlEnglish (talk) 20:07, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Aside from noting that despite the title it's about wasps...I'm just watching it again (in the background, that is, it's not like i care...) and noticed that the Canadian side of the Sumas border crossing is used as one of the sets, so definitely Huntingdon, British Columbia is one of the sets, and many of the actors/background are Vancouver locals i recognize, so it couldn't have been made in Sumas WA, not without a whole bunch of US viass....I've been watching the street sets, which could be Vancouver but I don't recognize any buildings; maybe Abbotsford or Langley City, I'll keep on watching close...maybe Chilliwack by the look of the urban density to the buildings, which Abby doesn't have, I don't know downtown Langley well enough to say....definitely made "in and around Vancouver" though....Skookum1 (talk) 15:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Huh, well that explains the urban sets - in the credits there's Hamilton and Dundas, Ontario, which doesn't explain at all why I clearly saw "Sumas" on some of the buildings, and I'm sure that was the Sumas border crossing....unless the one in Dundas looks the same (if that's a border crossing....). I'll look in IMDB and see waht it says abotu locations....Skookum1 (talk) 16:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Er, one bug flick looks like another; that was Swarmed! earlier, it's Killer Bees for sure that names Sumas....I can't watch it for clues again....imdb only lists Vancouver, so taht would qualify it, I guess....and I'm suposing that if it's a Vancouver based proeduction that it must have been the Canadian side of Sumas that was used; they screw the geography a bit by renaming Whatcom County "Sumas County", I guess becaues of that -com on the end of Whatcom.....Huntingdon's not very large so it must be Matsqui �Village as it's defintitely not downtown Abby....they sure mention Sumas a lot, i.e. in teh script....Skookum1 (talk) 18:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't Swarmed! the one with with Michael Shanks from Vancouver? Dundas was the name of the town that the movie was set in. I wonder if it's the same Dundas as the one in Ontario. OlEnglish (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Dundas and Hamilton were definitely the sets, as statedd in the credits of Swarmed! and also in IMDB.com, and I did get it confused with Killer Bees!, partly because of seeing Michael Shanks, and one bug flick looks like another to me.....I'm from the north side of the valley and never grew up hanging in downtonw Chili or downtown Langley, so wouldn't reocgnize the streetscapes directly; Abby I would, but it never had much of a real downtown; maybe it's Aldergrove, it's not Cloverdale, that I'd recognize (Killer Bees! I mean)...there's something I've seen where I remarked on downtown Mission, where I went to high school, but this wasn't it. Can't vouch for it being on the Canadian side of the border, maybe it really is Sumas, but Sumas' main street is real wide and highway-like and whatever smalltown character it had is long gone; and downtown Lynden is rpetty spiffed up...what I'm saying is I'm sure it wasn't in Whatcom County, let's put it that way. Also not Haney for sure....somewhere in the Lower Mainland anyway; with that particular grey light and Canadian camera/lighting style....Skookum1 (talk) 23:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Kootenay Brown (film)

I just looked it up on imdb.com - here - and made some notes on Talk:Kootenay Brown (which needs a lot of work). I'll ask someone at WP:Films to write the article....I do history articles, not film articles y'see....Skookum1 (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

J. Lo in Kamloops

Whatever the film was that J.Lo was making when she helicopter-shuttled to then-beau Ben Affleck during the making of Paycheck was not limited to Kamloops; the Ashcroft-Savona area was involved, not sure of the exact locations, i.e. I think it was a specfic ranch.

Fido (film)

I'm not sure but it was made in Kelowna, I think......Skookum1 (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

and Vernon as it turns out; I'l add it to the BC Interior section.Skookum1 (talk) 18:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The Grey Fox

I only meant to make a few additions, don't have time to do everything; the "search locations" function in imdb.com can be used to ref everyting on the page; I just looked up The Grey Fox and got all of these locations; if someone else would care to do the honours, for this film and many others here; I have other things to do today....Skookum1 (talk) 19:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Other BC locations in imdb.com

The search I did doesn't link well, the subdirectoy is only "list", but from this page a search for "British Columbia" turns up 2956 matches...2548 in Vancouver alone....this is gonna be a big list >:=| . Skookum1 (talk) 19:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Right, unnecessarily big, which is why we should only include entries that have existing articles. OlEnglish (talk) 01:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Been doing more...there's so many outside of Vancouver - Prince George, Ascroft, etc. that it seems fairly obvious that List of filming locations in British Columbia (excluding Vancouver and environs) seems necessary as a split-ff. here's Ashcroft:

1. "Eyes of a Cowboy" (1998) TV Series
2. "Traffic" (2004) TV Series 7.0/10 (498 votes)

...aka "Traffic: The Miniseries" (2004) (USA: promotional title)

1. "X Files, The" (1993) TV Series 9.1/10 (17885 votes)

...aka "X-Files, The" (1993) (USA)

1. Alien Trespass (2009)
2. Andromeda Strain, The (2008) (TV) 6.0/10 (3192 votes)
3. Bird on a Wire (1990) 5.4/10 (9996 votes)
4. Cadence (1990) 6.3/10 (2207 votes)

...aka Count a Lonely Cadence (1990)

1. Centigrade (2007) 8.3/10 (17 votes)
2. Double Cross (1994) 4.6/10 (189 votes)
3. Flower & Garnet (2002) 6.9/10 (344 votes)

...aka Flower et Garnet (2002) (Canada: French title)

1. Joy Ride: Dead Ahead (2008) (V) 5.0/10 (643 votes)

...aka Joy Ride 2: Dead Ahead (2008) (V) (USA: DVD box title)

1. Lola (2001) 4.8/10 (140 votes)
2. Miss Texas (2005) (TV) 5.6/10 (29 votes)
3. Partition (2007) 6.6/10 (875 votes)
4. Pick-up, The (1999)
5. Shooter (2007/I) 7.2/10 (48035 votes)
6. Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, The (2005) 7.0/10 (13374 votes)

...aka Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants, The (2005) (Australia)

1. Thirst (2008/I)
2. Unfinished Life, An (2005) 7.1/10 (9088 votes)

...aka Ungezähmtes Leben, Ein (2005) (Germany)

1. Zacharia Farted (1998

I'm just too tired to do 'em up, quite a few dabs necessary too....Skookum1 (talk) 20:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think including BC Interior sections is a good idea; it conflicts with the article title, it would make the list too long (as mentioned earlier), and would not be notable enough to have it's own list anyway, "in and around Vancouver" meets notability for the reasons of it being "Hollywood North"; Although there are also many films shot outside of the main LA/Hollywood area, I don't think there should be a "List of films shot in California state interior" or whatever. Also, we should consider formatting for this list in comparison to Toronto's list, particularly italicizing the movie titles. - OlEnglish (talk) 01:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, speaking as someone who works in the film industry (if no longer at the moment in BC), it's a given that all the outside-of-the-Lower Mainland productions, or virtually all of them, are Vancocuver-based productions with studio and post-production and production offices and services located in Vancouver, which is the "film centre"...until recently when it's eitehr Kamloops or Kelowna that was made a new "film centre" in BC; which is a nexus hich there's a cost-radius contingent upon how far the unions have to travel to/from homebase; the radius happens to be just about exactly Yale, or not quite, in that direction, and so includes Hope; I think Pemberton's just outside the radius, Whistler just within it. Some places - Barkerville, Nelson, Fort Steele, the Cambria Icefield near Stewart - are "classic sets"; what was surprising to me when sourcing that list in imdb.com was indeed how many towns in BC had been used, often for notable films. I appreciate that this isn't List of Vancouver-based film productions but rather a lit of filming locations, which is why I suggested List of filming locations in British Columbia and I don't see why List of filming locations in California isn't also of interest; if limited to notable productions anyway. Defining "in and around Vancouver" is rather loose when including, say, Hope or Squamish or Gibsons....and if it's only "in and around Vancouver" then Sumas, Washington fits the bill; even though it's not in BC.....locations for The Grey Fox and My American Cousin were all outside the Lower Mainland, yet they're some of the most notable films in BC film history, or rather notable in BC film history (if not entirely notable films beyond their importance in BC film history, that is...). Waht I'm getting at is that, in terms of the practicalities of film production, the Hollywood North movie-making machinery uses all of BC as its set, when it needs to. In some perspectives looking from outside in, Kelowna is "near Vancouver"; in film productions it's part of the same area definitely (though, again that's changed with the new Interior film centres; ditto I think Victoria is a film centre - or else shooting costs at Hatley Park would be prohibitive). "Filming" in the title or in the lead should obviously, also, be limited to entertainment-oriented filming and not documentary filming, which is an entirely different ball of wax, whether it's Curtis' In the Land of the Head Hunters or Wade Davis' The Washing of Tears or any number of wildlife and scenic travelogues dating all teh way back to the '10s and '20s....Skookum1 (talk) 02:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I still think, to not have the list unmanageably long, the list should only include titles with existing articles and limited to filming locations visible in the film in the GVRD area, but then we'd have to move it to "List of filming locations in Metro Vancouver" which sounds better anyway. I still think, and you'll probably disagree, that primarily the Metro Vancouver area (and not Blaine or Sumas) is notable for being "Hollywood North" and that BC interior filming locations should not be listed in this list, nor have their own list. Or maybe just include notable films and tv series that have been almost entirely shot in BC interior locations? Shall we get a third opinion?? OlEnglish (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's just it - The Grey Fox, My American Cousin, Kootenai Brown ("notable but not interesting"), and whatever was filmed up on the Cambria Icefield near Stewart; all very notable BC films, Grey Fox and American Cousin especially. The Pledge, also notable (and interesting and "all star"). Note above that Sumas WA was the script-location of Killer Bees! BUT not the set (from what I can see of it, and it's listed in imdb as having been shot in Vancouver, even though it's clearly a Fraser Valley town, which in Angeleno eyes "is" Vancouver. Anyway the GVRD won't work well as a defining parameter as it excludes Abbotsford and Mission and Squamish/Whistler, as well as Gibsons (Beachcombers, Danger Bay) and Bowen Island (Russia House). Maybe the "union radius" for the Vancouver "film centre" would be the thing to use, although that still ends just shy of Yale but does include Hope and Whistler (but not, maybe, Pemberton, I'm not sure). Either that or "the Lower Mainland plus a bit" so that Gibsons, Whistler etc are still in it. Not sure how to deal with Victoria, or we just forget Hatley Park altogether (which, really, is the only Victoria set that's consistently used). Snow Falling on Cedars was shot in the Gulf Islands, I'm not sure which island though....btw do me a favour, capitalized the "I' in "BC Interior", it really looks odd without it ;-) (as would "lower mainland", e.g.).Skookum1 (talk) 01:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Here's a thought - what about putting a passage on the lede or at the bottom saying "for locations elsewhere in BC, please looked them up by town or consult imdb.com's location search"?Skookum1 (talk) 01:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

That sounds alright. So can I remove the BC Interior section then? Or do you want to create a new article titled List of filming locations in the BC Interior and move the material there?? OlEnglish (talk) 22:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Someone else here protested that there's no List of filming locations in the interior of California, but, well, maybe there should be. I agree with your suggested title, although it's a stretch to call Stewart "Interior" but it's really not all that "Coast" either; as it happens not many films have been made up-Coast, it seems. But lots have been made in the BC Interior, many very notable, with certain towns getting a lot of screentime - Nelson in particular - and certain "sets" like the Fraser Canyon between Lillooet and Pavilion also (as in The Grey Fox but various much bigger-name flicks and series) because of the filmability of the rail line through there (it's paralleled by the highway, which makes it great for tracking shots, and comes equipped with the Royal Hudson on demand....). Now there's no other state/province location pages and it may be that WP:Films doesn't like the page, we'll see; but with so many notable films being shot upcountry, it's hard to ignore them; as noted, until the establishment of the film centres (and film/location boards) in Kelowna/Kamloops these were almost all Vancouver-based productions....by the way, I knew guys who worked on The Postman, which was shot around Fort Colville or Kettle Falls or Bonner's Ferry, somewhere in there, and there was Vancouver crew and stunt cast on that production (which was a camp-out as there wasn't enough accommodations for the full crew in those small towns); Category:Films in which Vancouver played the part of Seattle would be silly, but fairly populous, also....Anyway do the split, and WP:Be bold. someone at WP:Films may object, but there's really nothign stopping anyone from making List of filming locations in Utah or List of filming locations in New Mexico or List of filming locations in Maine....Skookum1 (talk) 23:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

[undent]My mistake about Snow Falling On Cedars - coastal locations were almost all shot on Whidbey Island, at Port Townsend and somewhere in Maine, with ferry scenes shot on Kootenay Lake...although lots of the West Kootenay was used - New Denver, Kaslo, Nelson etc....see this imdb.com locations page for it Skookum1 (talk) 01:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

 Done Ok, tell me what you think of my changes. I still need to italicize all the titles and remove red links though. OlEnglish (talk) 02:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Whuh?? Sorry, I better have a look but by the look of things you've now redefined "in and around Vancouver" to mean only Metro Vancouver; which means ditching (from the article) Brittannia Beach, Squamish, Whistler, Mission, Abbostford, Chilliwack. Is that really your intent. Also I strongly opposed the creation of articles and the existence of categories using regional districts as apporpriate geographic divisions of BFC - unless the subject matter of the article relateed directly to (and only to) that regional district; normally this would be water boards, regioanl parks, and the like, and all civic infrastucture including that of member municpalities. The proper geogrpaphic division most of this would have been more adequately and authentically described/defined by would be "the Lower Mainland", which includes non-Metro Vancouver areas. I will have to file an RFC or something about this; this was an inappropriate use of the regional district boundary/definition, and damages the articles' contents and eontext. The relevant geographic sphere, as I've explained above, is the film industry's own radius. The GVRD-cum-Metro has nothing to to do with it; this an ill-considered mistake, in terms of the geographic definition/limitation as wwll as contrary to the subejct matter's own geographic reality (which includes Mission, Abby, Squamish, Whistler, Bowen. It's late - I just came in - but I must urge you Ol'English to realize your error and undo this; unless you've gone and already taken out all the lcoations outside of "Metro" (gaaaah, even the use of that term is POV) but which are still insdie the Vancouver "film centre"'s operational radius.Skookum1 (talk) 05:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Did you not notice the See also at the top and bottom of the pages? List of filming locations in the BC Interior?? Whistler and Hope and the others can be moved to that article, not ditched, of course not! However, Mission, Abbotsford and Chilliwack are in the Fraser Valley so how bout we change the title again to List of filming locations in Metro Vancouver and the Fraser Valley?? And the reason I used the term "Metro" is because that's the name of the article: Metro Vancouver and GVRD redirects to there, but now that you mention "Lower Mainland" I agree that that would be a better title: List of filming locations in the Lower Mainland.. how about that title? I really want to get some consensus on this. Don't worry about the RFC just yet, I'm gonna put in a request at Wikipedia:Third opinion first, see what someone else has to say, then you can go ahead and make the changes that you so strongly feel are more correct, be it a change of title or an addition to the lead intro paragraph mentioning Vancouver "film center's" operational radius or whatever is necessary. My main reason for doing things the way I did is like I said before.. It will be unmanagebly long if all of BC Interior is included and redlinked films are included, plus I eventually want this list to reach Featured List status. I really value your opinion and your help with this article, and I acknowledge your experience working in the film industry, so I hope we can work together and finally come to an agreement on this. OlEnglish (talk) 21:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

PS. I must admit, I'm totally confused by these sentences:

"The relevant geographic sphere, as I've explained above, is the film industry's own radius. The GVRD-cum-Metro has nothing to to do with it; this an ill-considered mistake, in terms of the geographic definition/limitation as wwll as contrary to the subejct matter's own geographic reality (which includes Mission, Abby, Squamish, Whistler, Bowen."

Could you put it more simply for me so I can understand exactly what you mean? OlEnglish (talk) 21:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

edit conflict - - you wrote that while I was writing what's next; I'll answer the above after dinner and maybe a movie; I have a guest who's napping and can't answer as quickly as I otherwise might.Skookum1 (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Ol'English, but I have to ask - are you from BC? The reason is that neither Whistler nor Hope are considered "Interior", and while Pemberton is it's also "Coast", or on the cusp. The Interior begins "beyond Hope", on Hwys 1/5/3 and essentially anything on the near side of the Alexandra Bridge (Hwy 1), the Coquihalla tollbooths (Hwy 5) and the Sunday Summit (Highway 3). Whistler's a hard one to categorize, like Yale/Spuzzum or Manning Park; if anything the best region-classification for Whistler is "Coast Mountains" but culturally/economically/touristically it's part of the Coast. Squamish, like Hope, definitely is (Hope is in the Fraser Valley, which is part of hte Coast; it's never spoken of as being in the Interior), i..e part of "the Coast" (especially in the perspective of the Interior....). I pondered this all last night and this morning, actually, i.e. what to call this article, and yes I DID see the Interior article....."Vancouver, the Lower Mainland and Sea to Sky Country/Corridor"? "Greater Vancouver" (sans the RD qualification almost includes Mission/Abbotsford, and certainly in the eyes of the real Hollywood it does. "Vancouver and environs" helps out a bit, as "environs" is a bit better than "in and around" and can include Mission, Abby, Gibsons, Squamish, and even Whistler.....the general regoin, though usually only used by weathermen, is "the South Coast" such that Vicotira, Nanaimo, Chemainus, etc are included; but again can also include locations in Whatcom County (which for those films that did use the Lummi Reserve or whatever that bit of factoid can be put in a footnote or bracketed comment, and need not be reflected in the title...). Most importantly, however, as in the beginning of my comoment, I strongly - very strongly - oppose the use of regional districts as geographic divisions, especially when they don't relate to the subject matter in any way. The Vancouver Film Office, however, does, and that also comes under the Ministry of Tourism which has its own region system different from that in municipal legislation. For now I don't know what else to suggest name-wise, but I do support hte split you've made; the title of that article may have to be de-colloquialized; in wiki-terms "BC" is not normally acceptable in a title even though it's easily a parallal/most common usage. An ideal title for this article would somehow incorporate Victoria, also (Greater Vancouver, the Lower Mainland/Sea to Sky and GReater Victoria" is just too unwieldy though...Skookum1 (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Well I dunno either, Why don't we just settle with "Lower Mainland" then since that includes the fraser valley (see the map in the article), even though I think it's important that the word "Vancouver" be somewhere in the title as it's more known. "Vancouver, the Lower Mainland and Sea to Sky Country/Corridor"?? Kinda long. "Environs"? Isn't really a common word and just sounds kinda weird, and "in and around" doesn't sound encyclopedic. But anyway, maybe we're just making too big an issue of this. After all, most people from outside BC generally regard Vancouver as equating to the entire Lower Mainland anyway, and when they come across this article they aren't going to fuss about what the borders are. I'm more concerned with the article looking good, not being caught up in trivialities. We gotta draw the line somewhere. The use of regional districts as geographic divisions is besides the point, you said it yourself.. "they don't relate to the subject matter in any way." Let's focus on the subject matter and that being the filming locations and not their borders. I hope that made sense and I'm not trying to be hostile, I just think this is getting out of hand.

Which is why regional districts should not be used for regional divisions; they don't work, especialloy in this case where the film inudstry itself does not define its local activites according to the regional distrit boundary. Neither should this article, in title or in content; "Greater Vancouver" would be a better term if anything; Lower Mainland I'm concerned is not that recognizable to non-British Columbians.Skookum1 (talk) 13:17, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh and yes I am from BC, however I haven't travelled much. :) OlEnglish (talk) 02:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, part of the problem is the literlism that's so much part of Wikipedia; in terms of non-specific, non-encyclopedic-speak, and especially from the perspective of an American or European or even eastern Canadian, Mission and Abby are part of Vancouver, and Squamish and Whistler are pretty much exurbs. If this could only have remained List of filming locations in Vancouver with it implicit the external definition/description applied, that'd be fine. List of filming locations in the Lower Mainland is almost fine - it includes Mission, Abby, Hope - but not Gibsons, Squamish, Whistler, which should stil lbe included. I'm not sure at all the environs "sounds weird"...."and adjacent areas" isn't exact enough, and could include Lytton (which is as close to Hope as Whistler is to Lions Bay, which is the end of the Lower Mainland, and kind of just outside it...). Still pondering the name problem; my basic point about RDs/regions and teh film centres, is that the industry regards locations in Mission, Abby, Squamish and mabye Whistler to be "in Vancouver"....if you came frmo a megalopolils that took five hours to drive acorss (without traffic) as L.A. is you might see it the same way, I gues. It's late time for bed....Skookum1 (talk) 03:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Short interim, if not permanent solution - which it may prove to be, is change it to "Lower Mainland" and in the intro section explain that Whistler and Gibsons (and mabye Pemberton) are included for convenience's sake or some similar wording, all other mainland ones ref to the BC Interior article, and maybe List of filming locations on Vancouver Island (and adjoining islands, stated in the intro); if there's much more than Hatley Castle that is, and I'm not sure there is...Skookum1 (talk) 03:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, how's this - List of filming locations in Greater Vancouver and area - I thought of this as i was about to shift the title to List of filming locations in Greater Vancouver, but that title still has too-small implications and NB "Greater Vancouver" is not synonymous in origin/usage with "Greater Vancouver Regional District" - the latter took its name from the former, which existed for a long time before the regional district system was created (and didn't include Maple Ridge or Langley, and at one time didn't really include Delta, PoCo, Surrey...i.e. as a usage). The "and area" part allows for Gibsons and Squamish/Whistler as well as Mission and Abby etc. In continental/global awareness terms it almost includees Victoria and Nanaimo, though I don't think any BCers would buy that definition; "South Coast" and "Lower Mainland" are too BC-specifci in context to be recognizable, adn in the film industry "Vancouver", as noted, can even take in Hope and Whistler; so to satisfy both "camps" the "and area" seems simplest, and shortest....Skookum1 (talk) 17:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Or just [[ List of filming locations in Vancouver and area as the "Greater" is somewhat redundant/irrelevant in global terms and could be confused with the former name of the RD (as indeed it often is and here has been).Skookum1 (talk) 17:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but now the "and area" part isn't defined well enough! I bet some editor is gonna come along and move it back to it's original title anyway. LOL! I don't know anymore. OlEnglish (talk) 00:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I thought the issue was as much cumbersomeness i.e. "in and around" or "environs"...."area" seems more coloquial English. There's probably a wiki namestyle guideline for this kind of thing. List of filming locations in Vancouver and Southwestern British Columbia maybe will have to do - the reason I suggest it, long though it is ("Southwestern BC" could match "BC Interior" but again that's a BC usage, not global), is that the film industry comes, more or less, under the aegis of the Ministry of Tourism; whose region for the Lower Mainland/Sea to Sky/Vancouver etc is "Southwestern British Columbia" - I think, I'll check their site (http://www.hellobc.com). It's also vague, though it does have precise formal boundaries (ifwe pay attention only to the Ministry of Tourism's definition). Normally I don't like calling on government regions this way, but it's a more apt usage than "Metro Vancouver" both in geographic terms as well as in terms of which unit/hierarchy of political geography is involved.Skookum1 (talk) 13:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, so much for that idea/justification - they've gone and renamed their region "Vancouver, Coast and Mountains" which is even vaguer....still "Southwestern BC" is kind of a recognizable term and can include lower Vancouver Island, the Sunshine Coast, Whistler, the lower Fraser Canyon (Lillooet-Lytton have been included in the designation at times, but of course are also BC Interior, ditto Pemberton).Skookum1 (talk) 13:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, guys. I see you have requested a third opinion a while back but you seem to have made a lot of progress since then. Are you still in need of additional editors to join the discussion or are things getting resolved? Additionally, it appears Zodon (talk · contribs) has offered to help (below). Since I'm from BC, I can't provide a neutral third opinion, but I'm still glad to help. (EhJJ)^TALK 01:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

"Southwestern BC" sounds fine to me (as long as BC is spelled out). I see you two have come up with a lot of alternatives and weighed their pros and cons. Nothing quite seems to fit just right, but I encourage you to keep up the good work. (EhJJ)^TALK 01:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Third opinion

zodon (talk · contribs) wants to offer a third opinion. To assist with the process, editors are requested to summarize the dispute in a short sentence below.

Viewpoint by (OlEnglish)

I'd like to keep the article title as it is now.. per Wikipedia:NC#Use_the_most_easily_recognized_name policy; with perhaps further clarification from Skookum written into the lead paragraph, whatever information he deems is necessary for clarifying what area(s) the list covers and why certain titles are or are not included in the list. I'd like to keep Gibsons, Squamish and Whistler in the list but not Vancouver Island locations; to keep the list at a reasonable size there has to be a limit. OlEnglish (talk) 23:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Viewpoint by (Skookum1)

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This is a preliminary note only to advise that I can't undertake this today as I'd like to due to a house guest situation and I can only squeeze in so much typing; I hope to have an entry here by Friday....Skookum1 (talk) 01:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've remembered to come back....my objection to the new title ("Metro Vancouver") is that regional districts are not appropriate geographic divisions of British Columbia, especially when the subject under discussion is NOT delimited by the boundaries of the regional district. "Metro Vancouver" is also a rebranding neologism, the ongoing public usage remains "Greater Vancouver", and that term can take in more than the former GVRD (Greater Vancouver Regional District, now renamed Metro Vancouver). The current title excludes several important and highly-notable filming locations in Mission and Hope; even List of filming locations in Vancouver and the Lower Mainland wouldn't suffice, because the Lower Mainland ends at Lions Bay and doesn't include other important and also highly-notable filming locations in Britannia Beach, Squamish, and Whistler. "Southwestern BC" is a common term for the general region, though except in one or two provincial ministry contexts is more or less unofficial, and does not have exact boundaries (it can for example, include Lillooet, Lytton and the Sunshine Coast). From the perspective of those outside British Columbia, particularly in the film community/industry this article addresses, places like Abbotsford, Hope, Squamish and even Whistler are still "Vancouver", i.e. in the greater scheme of things. Whiel the former title "in and around Vancouver" was maybe too vague, likewise my suggested "Vancouver and area", the current title is too limited and also invokes a jurisdiction (see regional district) which has no authority over nor any role in the film industry, other than making lots of money renting out the Seymour and Lynn watersheds to Stargate for use as sets. The Vancouver film industry zone of activity does not end at Metro Vancouver's boundaries. Some term, or compromise term, is needed to address the outlier sets; Hope and Squamish especially can't be left out; List of filming locations in Vancouver and Southwestern British Columbia maybe, but then we have to define "Southwestern British Columbia". List of filming locations in the Vancouver film zone or some such, depending on what the proper term is within the industry (I'll try and find out; it may be a useful term). "In and around Vancouver" had the advantage of including Victoria, btw, as well as Sechelt/Gibsons....Skookum1 (talk) 22:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Third opinion by zodon

....

Thank you both for summarizing the state of the discussion.

As I understand it there seem to be two questions here, one - what to name the article, and two, what areas to include.

I think the two issues should be dealt with somewhat separately, based on the list naming conventions. i.e. "overly precise list titles can be less useful (and make the list difficult to find); the precise inclusion criterion of the list should be spelled out in the lead section (see below), not the title."WP:SAL#Naming conventions

For the name, I favor "List of filming locations in greater Vancouver," or possibly just ... in Vancouver (by analogy with the list for Toronto). I think greater Vancouver would be more readily understood to non-locals than Metro Vancouver. (I have visited Vancouver, but am not intimately acquainted with the area. Had not heard of Metro Vancouver before reading here.)

• I like the alliteration in "Vancouver and vicinity," but I suspect that greater Vancouver may be more commonly used.
• "In and around Vancouver" seems needlessly wordy (less likely to turn up in search, harder to remember when linking), but not bad.
• "Vancouver and area," doesn't sound sound quite natural (sorry for the vague feedback there - it just sounds like a word is missing. May be question of my local variant of English.)

I think Southwest British Columbia would not be as easily recognized as Vancouver (requires knowing where exactly Vancouver is in BC). I would sort of expect such a title to be a complement to something like Vancouver (e.g. - covering the outlying areas that weren't included in a major city like Vancouver or Victoria).

Might consider one list for British Columbia (e.g., move the BC Interior list), noting in the lead that it excludes right around Vancouver, and the Vancouver list. (Until the lists grow so large that more division is required.)

Afraid I don't have much to suggest as far as specifics of what locations to exclude or include from the Vancouver article. It seems like there are such a large number of films in the search that subdividing the list might be desirable at some point. If it isn't too unnatural to the subject, dealing with outlying areas separately might be appropriate. I wouldn't think of Victoria, Vancouver Island or Whistler as being included in greater Vancouver, for instance.

Mostly I think don't try to make the title the defining feature of what is/isn't in the list. Go for a title that is easy to recognize and link to, and spell out the exact area definition in the lead. I hope this helps, please respond here if I can help clarify something or there are further questions. Zodon (talk) 01:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, except that I maintain that "Metro Vancouver" is more proper. "Greater Vancouver" redirects to "Metro Vancouver" anyway. It's the official title of the area and of the corresponding Wikipedia article. The more-encompassing term "Lower Mainland" is already mentioned in the lead paragraph but if Skookum wants to be more precise with the definition I have no objections with him spelling out in the lead whatever he seems fit. OlEnglish (talk) 02:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh and thank you for your opinion. BTW, I also created a redirect using "Greater Vancouver" OlEnglish (talk) 02:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

It's the official title of the government' of only a portion of the area of "Greater Vancouver". And it's so new that "proper" vs "most common usage" clearly falls in favour of the latter. "Proper" it's not, not in reference ot a region includding Mission, Abbotsford, Squamish, Hope. Nowhere near "proper". It's the proper name of what used to be named the Greater Vancouver Regional District, but THAT term was NOT synonymous with "Greater Vancouver". The RD took its name from the latter; and from outside of BC, the boundaries of the RDs are invisible (except to earnest Wikipedians, some of whom obsess over them). Vancouver's modern-era film industry was born with First Bloods use of sets in Hope, which in Hollywood's mind is still "Vancouver" (in the very same way that we can transpose Orange County as "L.A."). "Greater Vancouver" I can settle on, "Metro Vancouver" I will oppose, and oppose, and oppose; it's a misuse of the regional district system to use it as a geographic-definitor for BC; it's media-fashionable, but it's by no means common usage (except among the same trendy set who extol "Vancity" as something other than a credit union, but which is equally nouveau. A regional district is not a region. It is an administrative body; it does not take in teh whole area meant by "Vancouver" when that name is used in the film industry, it's that simple (and the RD has, again, no role in teh film industry other than renting set-locations). The meaningful geographic terms are Greater Vancouver, Lower Mainland, and Southwestern BC; those are region-names. Regional district names are NOT.Skookum1 (talk) 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Phew! Well then, I guess it'll have to be List of filming locations in Greater Vancouver then. But I already created the redirect, what now? We have to be careful to retain the edit history when moving over the redirect. OlEnglish (talk) 04:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

The :proper" designation, as per the divisions and parameters used by teh British Columbia Geographical Names Information System, Canada GeoNames Database (CGNDB) and the Atlas of Canada would be List of filming locations in the New Westminster Land District. Interestingly, this would include nearly all locations discussed (Yale and Lytton are in teh Yale Land District, Lillooet and Pemberton are in the Lillooet Land District. So if you want to be proper, the PROPER usage is "New Wesminster Land District" (which even the RD's boundaries are defined according to...).Skookum1 (talk) 04:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok ok, you made your point. OlEnglish (talk) 06:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Another list is List of airports in the Vancouver area....is List of filming locations in the Vancouver area still open?Skookum1 (talk) 13:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

More work to be done on this list

I have yet to alphabetize all the movie titles. Also, I intend to remove not just redlinked entries but any titles that don't correspond to its "filming locations" entry in IMDb, as that is the main reference used for this list.. unless of course someone can cite another reliable reference that a certain movie was filmed at a certain specific place. But first would like to get consensus on this. OlEnglish (talk) 03:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Possible source

www.beforethetrailer.com/category/daily-film-locations/ lists daily filming locations for Vancouver and other areas. Could be useful as a reference, unfortunately it was spammed a lot and is now on the spamwatch list. -- œ^™ 02:09, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

haven't looked at it, though will/ thing is sites like Reel West Digest and the BC Film Comm and http://www.imdb.com can have all those details; IMDB in particular does, being something of a "website of record" within the film industry. It's where I built the List of filming locations in the British Columbia Interior first drafts with....Skookum1 (talk) 03:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Are We There Yet? - possible citation

I looked it up in IMDB.com - if it's the 2003 film that's meant, this citation, the locations listing in imdb.com for that film, could be the right citation, though it says Sea to Sky Corridor, not Britannia Beach; that diner at the south end of town has been in lots of things btw....Skookum1 (talk) 03:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

X-Files

At what studio was The X-Files shot? I note that it isn't stated here. 75.48.8.163 (talk) 23:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Merge discussion

I found List of films shot in Coquitlam and see no reason for it to exist separately from this page; we don't do this for New Westminster, North Van etc, there is no reason for a Coquitlam-only list, in part because most of the films listed were also shot in other municipalities as well.Skookum1 (talk) 05:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

STRONGLY AGAINST - By your theory, the Vancouver area one isn't good enough because MANY movies are shot partially in the Vancouver area and partially elsewhere, sometimes in the place where they are actually set. Where does it stop. Besides, that Vancouver area page is big and is only going to get much bigger. I would actually argue that the cities with lots of productions get broken off into their own pages, with just the links on that page, as well as those communities with just a few. This feels like busy-work. Greg Salter (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Supernatural is shot in Coquitlam, Port Moody, Burnaby, Port Coquitlam, Pitt Meadows, Maple Ridge, Mission, and points east of Mission, and also in Langley and Abbotsford and Surrey and New West. Same goes for X-Files and locations for Stargate shows; Lower Mainland-shot productions are not limited to any one municipality alone ("Vancouver area" was used as "Lower Mainland" and "Greater Vancouver" don't cut it, especially when re Lower Mainland, Squamish and Whistler and Pemberton - and Gibsons and Bowen Island - are not part of the LM). "Cities with lots of production" are most of the LM municipalities; a series of parallel/subarticles is going to have tons of overlap. This whole page is WP:TRIVIA anyway, and ongoing WP:OR, but if it's going to last despite that, creating mini-forks off it isn't going to help, especially when the content of those forks is going to largely contain the same entries. Shows shot in North Van are also shot in Vancouver and West Van and White Rock and Maple Ridge....what you're suggesting is more articles like the Coquitlam one.Skookum1 (talk) 04:45, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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