Talk:List of highest United States cities by state or territory

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Reformat this article[edit]

I think this article should have more structure and guidelines, something like the List of highest large cities. Set a population benchmark (it could be low). An issue exists with the term "city." Settlement hierarchy is somewhat subjective as a city could be designated by a specific population value. This current page should be titled highest US settlements. Patrick Fisher 18:28, 21 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricksfisher2 (talk • contribs)

Missing States[edit]

Arkansas
Illinois — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:244:5480:5E4B:3DB5:4B5:E26E:C993 (talk) 22:05, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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Not moved. No target name was proposed and none came in the discussion. Also the discussion did not produce a consensus to do something specific. I'll also add that the list needs cleanup. I did not know that mountain tops are cities. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:53, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of highest United States cities by state → NewName – The article includes D.C. and Puerto Rico, so maybe a better title would be good? Ncboy2010 (talk) 00:06, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - DC is often treated as a state in lists with states. PR is also, though less frequently, treated similarly. 65.94.77.11 (talk) 05:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Does Wikipedia even need a list of the highest cities in the US? Is there much of a difference in height there? There's already the List of highest cities in the world, so perhaps we could change this list into the List of highest cities in the world by country? If not, perhaps we could merge the two or something. AnimatedZebra (talk) 08:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria for inclusion[edit]

What do people think should be criteria for including on this list? That is, does the settlement have to be incorporated, or do census-designated places count, etc.? --Tdp301 (talk) 22:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As one option, there could be two columns (four counting elevations) for each state- highest incorporated city or town and highest census designated place (which could be unincorporated). --Tdp301 (talk) 14:47, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Leadville[edit]

In my opinion, for this list, all that matters is that the "city" be an incorporated continuously inhabited site. I removed "While Alma is the highest incorporated municipality in the United States, the nearby city of Leadville is its highest incorporated city at an elevation of 10,152 feet (3,094 m)." This sentence is totally obscure. It assumes that there is a meaningful distinction between a "municipality" and an "incorporated city" for the purposes of this list, and that all readers will immediately know that. But readers of this list have no way of knowing what the distinction is, nor knowing if it is significant. Each state handles the legal status of its cities in a distinct way. For instance New England in general, with its system of towns, with New Hampshire, in particular, having no county governments being completely covered by towns; while Alaska, Louisiana, and Hawaii all have unique municipal-county structures, unlike anywhere else in the United States. Nick Beeson (talk) 13:44, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is well known and accepted that Leadville is the highest city in the US. The key word here is "city" not whether or not it is incorporated. Gandydancer (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Agrihan, Northern Mariana Islands[edit]

Agrihan is listed as the highest "city" in the Northern Mariana Islands. However, it is an uninhabited island, and not exactly what i'd think of as a city. Apparently it was never very populated; article says that 94 people lived there in 1967 and all were evacuated in 1990. The article for Saipan (the capital) says that the entire island is organized as a single municipality. Could that be interpreted to mean that yes, it would be the highest point in all of the islands? Pineybranch (talk) 18:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Several states repeated, much incorrect information[edit]

This article is in need of a lot of editing. Several states are listed multiple times on the table despite the intention of it to only list the single highest city in the state, including New Mexico, which is listed 5 sepperate times, and Wyoming, listed 3 times. The existence of the "comments" secion is also being used for trivia, which is irrelevant to the topic of the article. According to the top of the article, the chart should list the highest settlement in each state, regardless of whether it is considered an incorporated place, however if it is decided that this should be changed to only list incorporated places, then the "comments" section of the chart should be retained and only used to list unincorporated places with a higher elevation than the highest incorporated place listed.

In my edit I removed the second listing for Montana which was completely incorrect, removed the incorrect comment in the other Montana listing, and provided an official government source for the elevation data in place of the news article and commercial site listed previously. However, as I lack personal experience with other states, I have chosen not to edit any further and will leave cleaning up the rest of the article to someone else.

LyridiaStarwalker (talk) 21:08, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

One per state or not?[edit]

Looks like there was never any fruitful discussion from the point raised a year ago, as to multiple cities per state being named in the list, despite the "one per state" guideline posted at the top. Thoughts? Jessicapierce (talk) 04:27, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think there should be one per state, per the title and because beyond that, it becomes unverifiable. Let's be bold and delete extra ones. —hike395 (talk) 14:09, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion about scope of list[edit]

There seem to be multiple editors who may be confused about the scope of this list. The title of the list is "highest United States cities by state". I believe that means that there should only be one town listed, per state. If there are multiple entries per state (for example, if we place many many towns in Colorado), then this simply becomes a List of highest United States cities.

I've reverted today's edits, and removed rows which duplicated states. Does this make sense to other editors? —hike395 (talk) 07:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hike395, that does make sense, and I agree. My initial edits were to fix the ridiculous number of DAB links, but now that I look closely at this page and its history, I agree with your take – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 15:16, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]